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Old 02-15-2013
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Originally Posted by PCP View Post
"Third Mate on sailing in two hurricanes before Sandy: The main difference is that, in those storms, our bilge pumps kept up.

Crew couldn't get the emergency pump to work. That's the pump no one had been trained to operate...."

After all it seems that the ship had sailed previously in Hurricanes. Does anybody find normal that with today's way of predicting weather a wooden XVIII century designed ship, mostly of the time in bad sailing condition, had sailed in 3 hurricanes?

It seems he thinks normal that a ship could be maintained afloat because pumps are getting out more water than the one that is coming in. It seems pumps were not used in emergencies but as a normally used component on sailing that ship.

I heard old stories about wooden ships that had to be continually pumped...they were ships in bad shape trying to make their last voyage home...and not always succeeding.
After listening to the Bosun today it was apparent that the Bounty didnt really sail into hrricanes except the last one. This may be an exagreation of the press as well as his statements.

He described their procedure was to stay behind the foreward motion of the hurricane and utilize the winds wrapping around it from behind. If they accelerated or started catching up to the hrricane they deployed a sea anchor, anchor, or even hove too for a few days in one instance.

This is where the Captain said and meant he was
chasing hurricanes
. I understand his tactic now and it is not unlike what Vendee Globe or Whitbread sailors did in some of their tactics with low pressure systems. Of course the conditions will be heavy duty as it still is a big storm with winds and seas, but with the hurricane pulling away from you it allows you max winds with the every present danger pulling away and conditions improving. To me he put to rest today the newsmedias frenzy about teh phrase chasing hurricanes. He also commented the Bounty was such a pig, normal SOG was 4-5. In 30 knots they could actually get up to 7-9.

This in no way is an excuse for sailing towrad Hurricane Sandy which he did, Also apparent by Maines comments and first hand eyes she maybe should never have been allowed to sail,,,,ever....Just be a dock attraction.
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