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upwind characteristics

Newbie here, considering an Allmand 31 for a long term cruiser, coastal mainly with some conservative passages.
My home port is the San Francisco Bay. It's pretty heavy weather at times, considerable tides and currents. So comments I've seen that the upwind performance isn't so great "Won't point high, makes a lot of leeway." kind of concern me where I sail.
Does anyone have some comparative data or specifics like "points X degrees of wind...sails upwind with a beneteau but not a J" or something like that?
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Re: upwind characteristics

The Almand 31s are notably poor beating and running. They are not up to par with the worst pointing Beneteaus and are closer to something like an Island Packet upwind. I think that they would be a poor choice for San Fran. Bay given SF Bay chop. These are really poor boats in a chop. Beyond that cruising the California coast includes comparatively long jumps and the Almands poor performance would be a real liability.
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Re: upwind characteristics

Thanks much. I appreciate the candor, and yes, that would make it a frustrating ride, especially up coast against the current. ;-)
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Re: upwind characteristics

If you're in the market for an Allmand 31, that suggests to me that your budget would suit a Catalina 30, which is a much better boat for SF Bay. Get the deep keel.

Beyond that, generally speaking, I would want a boat that is stiff, sea-kindly, and one where the sail plan is easy to adapt to the large changes in wind strength (Sunday we had 8 kts south of the Bay Bridge, 22 kts gusting to 30 in the slot, zero to 8 in the Oakland estuary).

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