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Asking what browser a person is using is a valid troubleshooting question. Some servers, due to the web daemon they are running and the various technologies they are using are known to have issues with some browsers. Only a Mircosoft fanboy moron would say that just because Microsoft illegally used it monopoly power to force a sorry piece of **** program like Internet Explorer on the vast majority of the computers, that it qualifies as a standard of any sort.

I'd point out that France and Germany—the countries—have issued warning about using IE in its various versions as major security risks. The fact that corporations have locked their configurations and force people to use IE is no excuse for the problems that IE has.

Yes, the majority of the problems on Sailnet are due to bottlenecking from the advertising servers that are used to generate the ads.

I am willing to bet that your company is a Microsoft partner and that many of the websites you've designed aren't W3C compliant and buggy as crap on something other than IE.
Okay - first, the site is slow. No doubt. It's slow on virtually every browser and platform known to modern man. And, it's the ad and analytics servers that cause the most disruption. So looking4 is right.

Granted FF with Adblock has been a great solution as far as I've seen. But, jeez, what a crock. For an ad-supported site to get bogged down so much by the golden eggs that you have to kill the goose? Time to look for another ad agency.

Beyond that, I've taken great pleasure in seeing terms like "moron", "shill", etc. bandied about. Nice and spicy gentlemen.

However, Dog, I must take you to task for the above personal attack. When you call someone a "Microsoft fanboy" you have not only crossed the line of sailing forum etiquette, but you have greatly embarrassed yourself as a code-ninja when you add to that injury the insult that "you are willing to bet" looking4's work is "buggy as crap" on non-IE platforms in light of the undeniable fact that IE still has the lion's share of the market. That's the sure sign of someone who codes open-source template websites for friends and family in their underwear (NTTAWWT) - not one who does real work for Fortune 500 companies.

I think someone owes someone an apology.

PS - Looking4wind - welcome to SN dude. Go post something about sailing will ya?


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Okay guys, as previously mentioned, we know there's a problem and Admin has been trying to get it sorted. Again, I'm not computer savvy but my understanding is that the issue is not as easily solved as some here would seem to suggest.

Let's give it a rest, please.


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My point was I shouldn't HAVE to switch browsers to use this site.
And the stand on vessel shouldn't have to yield to the give way vessel, but sometime it must.

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That mindset is just plain stupid...
Some might call it practical. (There are other reasons to shun IE, but you don't care so I won't bother.)

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One of my biggest pet peeves is when a few people are having problems with a site, some moron has to chime in with "What browser are you using?".
Oddly enough: Sometimes switching browsers can "fix" a problem.

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I am a network engineer, ...
An MS-centric "network engineer" at an MS-Centric shop, from the looks of it.

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... this site has been SLOW!.

And slow on all platforms.

The problem is with the ads or the tracking (stats.ads.is). No question about it. Not IE, connection, or anything else.
That would appear to be the case.

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PS - IE7 and IE8 have about 70-80% of the market share. That makes it the DEFACTO STANDARD.
Well, I guessed that one right, didn't I?

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Okay guys, as previously mentioned, we know there's a problem and Admin has been trying to get it sorted.
John, the problem is clearly with the some of the plethora of advert and advert-supporting sites SailNet is loading up with every page. I currently have three (3) domains in my ABP list, all of them as a result of visiting SN. In fact: It was the poor performance of SN, engendered by some of its adverts, that caused me to install Adblock Plus in the first place.

I rarely, if ever, have this problem at any of the other sites I visit. Some of them have very high traffic volumes, but manage to survive w/o trashing their sites with a bunch of adverts. A couple others have lots of adverts, but somehow seem to avoid the lousy advert servers that would drag their sites into the slow lane.

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John, the problem is clearly with the some of the plethora of advert and advert-supporting sites SailNet is loading up with every page. I currently have three (3) domains in my ABP list, all of them as a result of visiting SN. In fact: It was the poor performance of SN, engendered by some of its adverts, that caused me to install Adblock Plus in the first place.

I rarely, if ever, have this problem at any of the other sites I visit. Some of them have very high traffic volumes, but manage to survive w/o trashing their sites with a bunch of adverts. A couple others have lots of adverts, but somehow seem to avoid the lousy advert servers that would drag their sites into the slow lane.

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Thanks Jim. It sounds as if your experience has been very similar to mine.

But I can't pretend to understand this topic the way all you guys posting to this thread seem to. When it comes to computers -- I'm way over my head on this stuff.

All I can do is reiterate that Admin is aware of the problem, and has been/is trying to cure it. Listening to you guys, it sure seems as though the fix should be relatively easy, but apparently for some reason it hasn't been. Maybe it's a question of legacy issues, or the size of the Sailnet database, or possibly even resources available to work the problem? I wish I could, but I just can't offer you an explanation.

We appreciate the comments/suggestions, and I want to assure everyone that we do pass ALL of them on to Admin. Beyond that, we'd ask for patience and apologize for the inconvenience.


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Talk about getting off on the wrong foot. Looking back at my first post, I would sincerely like to apologize for its tone. I'm not sure what set me off yesterday, bad week I guess, but my use of "moron" is inexcusable and childish, so sorry to all it was directed at.

While I don't agree with some of the responses directed back at me, do feel they were somewhat justified given the tone of my first post.

Since admin is aware of the problem, I'm sure they are working to rectify it so we'll just have to show some patience! Something I was lacking yesterday!

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Talk about getting off on the wrong foot. Looking back at my first post, I would sincerely like to apologize for its tone. I'm not sure what set me off yesterday, bad week I guess, but my use of "moron" is inexcusable and childish, so sorry to all it was directed at.

While I don't agree with some of the responses directed back at me, do feel they were somewhat justified given the tone of my first post.

Since admin is aware of the problem, I'm sure they are working to rectify it so we'll just have to show some patience! Something I was lacking yesterday!

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Mark,

Don't worry about it -- you showed real class in your second post. Great recovery!

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Talk about getting off on the wrong foot. Looking back at my first post, I would sincerely like to apologize for its tone. I'm not sure what set me off yesterday, bad week I guess, but my use of "moron" is inexcusable and childish, so sorry to all it was directed at.

While I don't agree with some of the responses directed back at me, do feel they were somewhat justified given the tone of my first post.

Since admin is aware of the problem, I'm sure they are working to rectify it so we'll just have to show some patience! Something I was lacking yesterday!

Mark
Goodonya looking4. I'm sure the guys responsible for those responses will be along shortly to show the same class.


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Yes, the majority of the problems on Sailnet are due to bottlenecking from the advertising servers that are used to generate the ads.

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The use of "moron" isn't what troubled me.

It's all good in any case. Post something about sailing. ;-)
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The only time I have a problem with this site I also have same problem with AS site as well. I use microsoft browser
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