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I should have added, that if someone is editing their posts so as to make someone else look wrong, they should be warned once, and then banned if it happens again. No need to disable the edit feature, just disable those who abuse it.

not at all doable - this would necessitate that the moderators read every single thread posted and that is not within the realm of reality or even close.

the moderators are volunteers and the minute moderating because a burden they will leave and I would never ask them to do this.

a reasonable alternative might be to move people with lets say... NNN+ posts into a group that is not affected by the editing time limit.

once a post count minimum is established I could do this programatically for everyone who met the post count min and abusers could be moved out of that group thereby placing them under the 'editing time limit' rule...

but as I stated previously I cannot expect the moderators to read every thread and besides there's no 'times edited' in the forum software anyway so they really can't track the number of times anyone has edited a post.

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once a post count minimum is established I could do this programatically for everyone who met the post count min and abusers could be moved out of that group thereby placing them under the 'editing time limit' rule...
This sounds like a good alternative.
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The edit button is visible for 24 hours after posting a message. We have found that leaving it on indefinitely has enabled a number of members to go back and attempt to rewrite history. The length of time we will leave it enabled is under review but leaving it on indefinitly (as we have in the past) is out of the question.

Sooo we're throwing the baby out with the bath water over a few bad seeds? Thank you for the slap in the face for supporting this forum for the last 10 years...

For as long as I have been here, nearly TEN years, this has worked just fine. Now we have a few bad seeds and the rest of us are being punished and what has worked just fine now all of a sudden does not..

I am sorry to say that if this is the new attitude of SN, a vast level of distrust of its members, you will be short one CONTRIBUTOR.....

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The 24 hour current setting it typical of nearly all online forums.
That is simply NOT true when it comes to SAILING forums...

I know of only two SAILING FORUMS that limit editing:

Sailing Anarchy (BUT they still allow me to DELETE a post)
Cruisers Forum

These SAILING forums DO NOT LIMIT editing:

Sailboatowners.com
O'dayowners.com
Hunterowners.com
SSCA
Anything Sailing
Catalina 34 Forums
Catalina 36 Forums
Tartan 37 Forums
Cape Dory Forums
Ericson Yachts Forums
Cruising Sailors Bulletin Board
Practical Boat Owner Forums (PBO)
CS Yachts Forums
Spar Talk Brion Toss Forums
Points East Forums
Yacht Paint Forums
Maine Coast Forums


The list of forums that ALLOW editing go on and on and on..........

A very, very sad day for me......
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once a post count minimum is established I could do this programatically for everyone who met the post count min and abusers could be moved out of that group thereby placing them under the 'editing time limit' rule...
This is a GREAT alternative and one I certainly HOPE you guys will institute. I really hate to have to leave SN over a bunch of people who can't act like adults....
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Maine Sail,

With all due respect to your seniority and informative posts, if you're concerned about updating your previously posted links and information (and I admire you for being so diligent), would it be possible to simply post a new message with the updated information? Maybe put a large-font UPDATE at the top? The original message could be copied with the new links or updated information added.

It seems to me, judging by the yet another sailing movie, iphone apps and books threads, the majority of people don't look at historical posts anyway. Also, even in current threads, many clearly post their message without reading the messages that preceded theirs.

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a reasonable alternative might be to move people with lets say... NNN+ posts into a group that is not affected by the editing time limit.

once a post count minimum is established I could do this programatically for everyone who met the post count min and abusers could be moved out of that group thereby placing them under the 'editing time limit' rule...
Great idea - we "senior members" would actually derive some benefit from our exalted status.
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I really hate to have to leave SN over a bunch of people who can't act like adults....
Maine, I like and respect you a lot - but this seems a little extreme dude.
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It seems to me, judging by the yet another sailing movie, iphone apps and books threads, the majority of people don't look at historical posts anyway.
And the ones that do get jumped on for "reviving dead threads".
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If the war and politics section of a sailing forum is causing problems for the people who want to talk about sailing, why not just remove the war and politics section and let them go talk about it on a war and politics forum.

Or remove editing in that part of the forum?

That said, I think the admins do a good job around here and are just trying to figure out the best way to handle an issue that has popped up. Maybe the first solution wasn't perfect, but I'm sure they'll come up with something that works for everyone. I don't post on the forum often (I don't have enough experience to add much) but I've always enjoyed and learned from your posts Maine Sail.
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Actually Jeff, I didn't have in mind that the mods keep track. It should be up to the affected members to bring it to the attention of the mods ... and then they take action. It should be a matter of self-policing, not having someone read all the posts.

In sum, I don't think anything needs changed. Leave the edit as it is, and if some members abuse it, then action can be taken if it's brought to the mods attention. If it isn't, then no harm, no foul.

For myself, if I found that being done to me, I would then edit the affected post with a very large addendum explaining just what was done. I think it's up to the individual members to keep track of that kind of behavior. I believe once the offending parties are called on it enough, they'll see it's pointless and that they can't get away with.
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