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well - there's nothing truly linking the chat feature to the 'reports' of a virus but Envolve's lack of a response to me by either email of a phone call after reporting the errors messages has pretty much nailed the coffin closed for them to ever be put back on Sailnet IMHO.

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Just a quick question. What happens when somebody says something "off topic" in the chat room?
Are there pitch forks and torches involved?
Actually, the beauty of the chatroom is that OT crap is, much like it is in real life, transient. In the forums, OT comments tend to become the subject of and then dominate otherwise substantive threads because they lose context and they gain permanence that would not occur in a normal verbal or chat exchange.

Similarly, there is an awful lot of sailing info exchange that is not worthy of an endless thread. "What sort of line should I use for X" is not a question requiring endless pontification -- just the brief answer of a trusted friend. Chat is great for that. In the forums, the "simple question" often leads to all sorts of ridiculous posturing and ridicule.

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Just a quick question. What happens when somebody says something "off topic" in the chat room?
Are there pitch forks and torches involved?
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No pitchforks, just some good friendly fun.

I really enjoy the time I spend in chat, and highly recommend reinstating it AS well as for more folks to drop in to say hello. I can't even count the number of new Sailnetters that come here that are too intimidated to post on the boards, it a great thing to be able to help them out either with a direct answer or directing them to properly posting their questions on the forums.

Think of it as the "Cheers" of sailnet, it's a great place to hang out with good folks that all have a common interest.


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Since SN is not a charity, I've never understood how chat drives eyeballs to advertising and the store. Seems it takes them away and would be counter productive. Maybe it just drives member numbers and the advertisers don't even know. I would have guessed, however, that SN would get a bump if a member actually clicks on an ad, and the topic sensitive interface is supposed to make that more likely.

If there is true Q&A on sailing related topics, I personally find it sad that it is lost the moment the chat window is closed. Still, whether in or out, isn't going to make or ruin my day. If there was any controversy at the time it was originally launched, it was only because the membership was asked for its opinion, which was promptly ignored. Just don't ask.


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Re: Sailnet Chat Silenced -- Day 2

a little follow up - The Envolve Chat library is not infected or the cause of any issues here at Sailnet -

HOWEVER - their javascript was using use base64_decode which is a known method of exploiting a website and Norton/Symantec has a serious problem with...as do many other malware detection programs.

I run Norton/Symantec on my computer and when I went to www.envolve.com I got a warning that their site contain Malware and I was warned not to access that site.

It appears as though Envolve has finally taken these complaints seriously and as of this morning they appear to have re-written their .js code and the warning no longer exists.

Therefore I will be turning chat back on today after I reinstall their modules which I deleted for safety purposes.

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Jeff,
Just an FYI, my Symantec/Norton Antivirus is seeing the trojan again. Chat isn't coming up, either.

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Can you advise is exactly how we can turn off the chat on a mobile phone. My case its an Android. It is easy to turn off chat on a computer laptop or desktop, however I get this chat thing floating around on my screen sometimes blocking what the post says itself and it's just very frustrating.

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Can you advise is exactly how we can turn off the chat on a mobile phone. My case its an Android. It is easy to turn off chat on a computer laptop or desktop, however I get this chat thing floating around on my screen sometimes blocking what the post says itself and it's just very frustrating.

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I have to disable chat on mobile from this end.
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Jeff,
Just an FYI, my Symantec/Norton Antivirus is seeing the trojan again. Chat isn't coming up, either.
I have Norton and I'm not getting any warnings - I would try clearing out your browser cache - let me know if that does the trick.
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