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Good writing

There have been threads about best books, why magazines are boring... I am not sure there has been a request for good writing and/or writers.

My favorite writer is John Gierach, he writes about fly fishing, I love reading his collected stories even if I don't fly fish. (he is so good I try saving books to read in the future)

Who writes about sailing and can transcend to people who don't love sailing already...

and examples
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Who writes about sailing and can transcend to people who don't love sailing already...

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TT, the number is countless - although I must admit that most of the really passionate sailing authors were writing last century, in the days when a voyage across the pacific, or even a sail across a lake, was seen as 'a grand adventure' worth writing about.

The authors I'm thinking of were those that got people interested in sailing primarily by their contributions for magazines and boys journals, starting with Lady Anne Brassey in ~1877 and continuing on from there. Others included (in no particular order): RH Dana, Nicholas Monserrat, CS Forester, Joseph Conrad, Alan Villiers, Rudyard Kipling, etc. etc.. although arguably the most relevant to sailing small boats as we know it would be the prominent British Naval Architect, author and magazine editor Maurice Griffiths:


I'm sure there are more modern authors writing exciting on-line blogs - but if they do exist, an ancient like me wouldn't know about them.
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TT, the number is countless - although I must admit that most of the really passionate sailing authors were writing last century, in the days when a voyage across the pacific, or even a sail across a lake, was seen as 'a grand adventure' worth writing about.

The authors I'm thinking of were those that got people interested in sailing primarily by their contributions for magazines and journals, starting with Lady Anne Brassey in ~1877 and continuing on from there. Others included (in no particular order): RH Dana, Nicholas Monserrat, CS Forester, Joseph Conrad, Alan Villiers, Rudyard Kipling, etc. etc.. although arguably the most relevant to sailing small boats as we know it would be the prominent British Naval Architect, author and magazine editor Maurice Griffiths. If you have never read any of his books - really, you should!

Maurice Griffiths - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sure there are more modern authors writing exciting on-line blogs - but if they do exist, an ancient like me wouldn't know about them.
I guess I was thinking modern writers... I don't know of the ones you mentioned.

... I don't know about you, but there are writers that on the first paragraph you realize s/he has talent beyond understanding. I haven't really seen that with sailing.
This isn't to say I haven't enjoyed some writing, but not so much has been amazing.

Maybe I am picky
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I guess I was thinking modern writers... I don't know of the ones you mentioned.

... I don't know about you, but there are writers that on the first paragraph you realize s/he has talent beyond understanding. I haven't really seen that with sailing.
This isn't to say I haven't enjoyed some writing, but not so much has been amazing.

Maybe I am picky
Oh, I don't think so... It's my not so humble opinion that writing quality - especially nautical writing quality - has been going down hill for a few decades now.

Maurice Griffiths was definitely one of those writers you refer to. It's an old book now, but have a read of his Magic of the Swatchways (it's a collection of short stories) and I think you'll find what you're looking for after the first sentence.
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Re: Good writing

Hopefully this isn't about me (that is to say, what I might or might not like, but an overall quality of writing for most)

but good writing..
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Re: Good writing

Sorry I can't find an extract on the web to show you... but any half-decent marine library should have a copy - of this or one of his other books.
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There have been threads about best books, why magazines are boring... I am not sure there has been a request for good writing and/or writers.

Who writes about sailing and can transcend to people who don't love sailing already...

and examples
I'm working with a friend designing a used bookstore, and she is not a sailor, and no desire to be one.

The theme of her store is, "Simpy good writing". In reading a review of the book, 'Why Homer Matters', by Adam Nicholson, she couldn't resist sending me this quote:

""the canvas stirs, like a dog in a bed, begins to acquire a form, and the boat gains a sense of purpose, a coherence it had lacked as it slopped in the chop or swell. The wake slowly starts to bubble behind you, “the gleaming wake” that runs behind Homeric ships as a sign of life and excellence, the cockpit drains gurgle . . . and with tiller and sheet in hand you sit up and pick your course across the sea. That is the Odyssean moment, everything liquid but directed, everything mobile but related: the sea itself, your boat in it, the air and its winds, all the possibilities.""

My friend added at the end:

"Almost makes me want to go to sea (her smiley face)" So there's some writing that's done exactly what you asked.

I plan to read the book just from that quote. I find sailing lacking in modern writing-even by today's most popular sailing writers. Sometimes I think it's me but it's just not there..

A current favorite of mine(I've mentioned here before) is David Bruckman who writes a regular column in Points East, a free online and print magazine. His small monthly column, "Fetching Along" is too short but nearly always puts me on the water, sailing.

I hope to see more "good writing" when it comes to sailing, posted here.
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Re: Good writing

I like writers that don't rely on stereotypical cruising topics (Admiral vs Captain, Potty humor etc) and hee-haw type one-liners (ie Fatty Goodlander). Some of the worst books ever written have been about sailing and cruising, so I too am interested in this topic.
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I think there is a difference between good technical writing that makes subjects approachable and understandable like that of Nigel Calder and Beth Leonard and engaging, thoughtful narratives like that of Richard Bode in First You Have to Row a Little Boat.
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I like writers that don't rely on stereotypical cruising topics (Admiral vs Captain, Potty humor etc) and hee-haw type one-liners (ie Fatty Goodlander). Some of the worst books ever written have been about sailing and cruising, so I too am interested in this topic.
This is how I feel.

I know a few hold Fatty up as a great writer... as a reader I need a writer to tell me why this is a great port or why someone is 'good people'
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