Ok, I have owned the same Pearson 10M with an A-4 since 1975 (thats 33 years with same boat), and while the A-4 is still chugging along, thinking about a diesel replacement. Looked at new at the Boat Show, and it seemed that it was 12k minimum to replace with a Beta Marine replacement. Since this is probably 50% to 75% of the value of the boat it doesn't make sense. Does anyone have advice about how to do this if I would like to keep the boat (it really is like one of the kids).
If you're planning on keeping the boat... bite the bullet and spring for the A4 drop-in replacement diesel that Beta makes. If you're planning on keeping the boat, don't bother, since you'll never re-coup the cost selling it.
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So the problem is what?
Not enough to do?
There's nothing I'd love more than to tear out a perfectly serviceable motor, add an entirely new fuel system, modify an exhaust or two, rejigger an electrical system...
all while standing on my head, arms twisted into cirque du soleil enviable positions... legs akibo.
have any self-service abdominal surgery scheduled?
That being said, I think you can pull the motor using the boom... (its about 350 lbs) using a block and tackle... but Dear God man, why???? (tongue in cheek nothing personal)
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I admit it may be crazy. But it is really the reverse, I don't plan to get rid of the boat after 33 years. But about every 8 to 10 years, I do as complete a refit as i can. This year was new stove (Origio - boat didn't come with propane), moving forward bulkhead and having a 30 gallon holding tank fabricated, last year it was mermaid reverse cycle heat and air. Next is an autopilot (tiller steered) and perhaps the self tailing converstion for my Barient 28s. But I have this feeling that the boat is virtually not resellable for any price with the A-4. And I suppose I am thinking about if the A-4 dies (as they all do eventually), do I continue to have Don Moyer as my best friend, (I don't really know him, but I swear they have my address memorized), or do I bite the bullet.
Plus the Pearson tends to be badly underpowered with an A-4. Will do 5+ knots in no wind and smooth seas, but don't plan on motoring against 20 knots of wind. Maybe the diesel would be just the same.
My only experience with that engine was on a chartered C&C 27. While it always started it certainly seemed feeble, even on a 27 footer. Only thing I liked about it was the quiet vibration free operation. If you got 12 grand... And you are going to keep the boat... And you plan on refitting everything anyway... May as well do it. Think not only about your engine, but the drive line too. Cutlass bearing, prop shaft, engine controls, propeller. All that stuff is wearing away... That A-4 and it's associated friends are going to nickle and dime you forever. Might as well spend the money on an entirely new package and be done with it.
But I have this feeling that the boat is virtually not resellable for any price with the A-4.
What leads you to believe that? Personally, I would rather have the A4 than a diesel. And, btw, had we been able to afford it and one was nearby, a 10M is what we'd have right now.
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And I suppose I am thinking about if the A-4 dies (as they all do eventually), do I continue to have Don Moyer as my best friend, (I don't really know him, but I swear they have my address memorized), or do I bite the bullet.
If our A4 dies, it's getting replaced with a rebuilt A4 from Don. Changing to diesel never even entered my mind.
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Plus the Pearson tends to be badly underpowered with an A-4. Will do 5+ knots in no wind and smooth seas, ...
Is that typical for an A4-powered 10M? We get 6.5 kts plus on smooth water in calm air on our P30 with the original 2-blade fixed prop. We got close to that under similar conditions with the Martec folding prop. Under more typical conditions, some chop/waves, wind on the nose or from some forward quarter, we get "around" 6 kts w/o pushing the A4 hard. You're 3' longer, 1.5' wider, 4k lbs heavier and have about 1' more draft.
yea, somthin' ain't right...
you should get more than 5.
A diesel isn't going to help that problem at all.
Resale values on the boats I've seen are comparable gas vs diesel depending of course on your locale. Those that are "going to sea" for extended periods would need a diesel, but thats about it.
I agree, if the A-4 goes belly up, I'd knock down a rebuilt for less than what 4k? And a decent machine shop can do one for about 1500.00 in parts.
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