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I am getting ready to launch my new (old) Bristol 27. I would like to start the motor while still on land. I understand I could add a 'T' fitting and valve in the suction portion of the water intake, and put the hose in a 5 gal bucket of water. However, for a one time test would it be a problem to pop the raw water intake hose off the seacock and dunk that in the 5 gal bucket?
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I am getting ready to launch my new (old) Bristol 27. I would like to start the motor while still on land. I understand I could add a 'T' fitting and valve in the suction portion of the water intake, and put the hose in a 5 gal bucket of water. However, for a one time test would it be a problem to pop the raw water intake hose off the seacock and dunk that in the 5 gal bucket?
Congrats on your new (old) Bristol.

Sure, that will work. The T-fitting is purely for convenience. It makes winterizing a breeze as well as any mid-season flush-thru you choose to do. Mid-season, I pull in a gallon of distilled white vinegar and let it sit in the engine for 24-hours to gently loosen any crud. It's a lot more environmentally friendly than other solutions and keeps things reasonably clear.
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I'd second installing the t-fitting with valve... it will make your life a lot easier...
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And I will 3rd installing the 'T' fitting. It makes running the engine on the hard a very simple exercise.
CLucas,
I've got a gallon of white vinegar on my boat I have been meaning to run through my A4 as you suggest. I also grew up in Sea Cliff sailing on Hempstead Harbor.
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And I will 3rd installing the 'T' fitting. It makes running the engine on the hard a very simple exercise.
CLucas,
I've got a gallon of white vinegar on my boat I have been meaning to run through my A4 as you suggest. I also grew up in Sea Cliff sailing on Hempstead Harbor.
Small world, Caleb. We sail out of Hempstead Harbour Club where I chair the club's Junior Sailing Program. Bet we know a lot of the same people...

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You want to be carefull about the cutlass bearing running dry as netural is a bit hit and miss on and A4 and it does not take much dry running to dammage it
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Tom makes a good point. Neutral can be a bit difficult to find such that the shaft is not spinning at all. Small increments in the shift lever will usually do the trick I have found.
You probably know this already but don't run the engine on the hard in forward or reverse. I found out the hard way and had to re-pack the stuffing box.
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You want to be carefull about the cutlass bearing running dry as netural is a bit hit and miss on and A4 and it does not take much dry running to dammage it
I really just want to see if it will start. Probably 10-15 sec. Think that is going to put the stuffing box and cutlass bearing at much risk? I don't want to break MORE stuff on this boat.
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I really just want to see if it will start. Probably 10-15 sec. Think that is going to put the stuffing box and cutlass bearing at much risk? I don't want to break MORE stuff on this boat.
Shouldn't be a problem -- yes, perfect 'neutral' is a bit touch and go, but the idea is to avoid running it in forward or reverse on the hard. Slow revolutions for a few secs are not going to do any damage. Have someone standing outside the boat who can watch (keeping hands, clothing, etc. clear) while you adjust to find neutral. When you DO find it, mark the fiberglass near the shifter with a pencil so you'll know where it is next time.

Additionally and VERY IMPORTANT, do not crank the engine with the intake hose in a bucket of water. Unless it turns over right away, you'll risk flooding the cylinders with water and create a real headache. As soon as the engine turns over, THEN put the hose into 5 gal bucket. Keep your eye on the bucket -- it can empty pretty fast if lines are clear.
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