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how much should it cost?

how long should it take and what should be the charge to have my transmission 'tweaked', i need a mechanic as thats a bit out of my comfort zone to give me back a ful neutral, it slips into a sloww forward, i hate it when i'm anchored, it creeps up, i just need a full neutral.

Thoughts? Tips? Ideas? I have a good mechanic thats been referred, just curious I guess about the cost till i speak to him
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Tweaked?

If it is just adjusting the "morse" cables and cable detents, that's probably 1/2 hour to an hour of labor, which could be $50-125 an hour plus travel time or minimums.

If no one has looked at the cables in a long time, it may be more extensive, the cables may need replacement, etc.

But if the only tweaking it needs is routine adjustment on the cable mechanism, that's the kind of thing you might want to try with a helper abovedeck to work the lever for you while you're below. Should be in a manual, not a big mystery, but if the guy is reasonable and you're unsure, ask him to show you how it is done, in case something comes loose while you're not at the dock.
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Sounds like it just an adjustment. As noted, worth trying yourself. And a mechanic is going to charge a minimum service call charge just to show up. Give the one recommended a call and see what he says.
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There are these new things called springs that you can attch to the shift arm to help hold it in place when idling.
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If you disconnect the cable end from the trans shift lever,does the shaft turn in neutral?.Should be a detent in each position. Now see if the cable fitting is happy going back into lever hole.No? adjust the position by unlocknut and threading fitting in or out to change effective length of cable.Make sure any cotter pins etc, are good to go.If this fits your boat , great. If not, remember it's not rocket science.(insure cable is good)
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There is no 'detente' in Neutral on my direct drive Atomic 4 tranny.
True Neutral is pretty hard to find, in my experience.
Forward has a 'detente' when it kicks in and Reverse whines a bit but Neutral is not easy to find.
Put some lube oil in your shifting wire to lube the inside wire.

It is easiest to adjust this with two people as note above.
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Depending upon the setup, you should be able to easily adjust the neutral shift position in just few minutes. In most instances, the detent is located beneath the gear-shift handle plate and consists of nothing more than a spring loaded ring. However, instead of trying to disassemble the shift mechanism, which is not easy, I suggest spraying it with WD-40 and working it back and forth until it freely shifts.

You can find a lot more information on this subject at Moyer Marine's site, which also includes diagrams and photos.

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There is no 'detente' in Neutral on my direct drive Atomic 4 tranny.
True Neutral is pretty hard to find, in my experience.
Forward has a 'detente' when it kicks in and Reverse whines a bit but Neutral is not easy to find.
Put some lube oil in your shifting wire to lube the inside wire.

It is easiest to adjust this with two people as note above.
I agree. It's important to first determine if you have a direct drive A-4. If it's a direct drive there is no true neutral, but there is a way to find the sweet spot where the prop is not turning (or turning so slowly it won't matter).

Moyermarine.com Use the forums to get fast answers to just about any A-4 question.
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Re: how much should it cost?

The problem really is more likely to be in the Reversing Gear than the shift lever assembly. +1 on Moyer Marine, he has a very concise article on adjusting the Reversing Gear to obtain a positive detent in Forward, which should in turn leave a wider cable/handle range for Neutral, before hitting Reverse.
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