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Old 03-01-2009
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What Happened to Sailnet?

I used to come here and I could always find a bunch of posts from Alex and be amused and now I can only see five posts. I have to go digging for the good stuff. I find I haven't logged in here in a month. It's a shame. I used to enjoy it here...

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Alex started a new forum and Cam is moderator just like the good old days. Please see this for more info My new sailing forum.
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A short history of the last month or two:

A well known sailboat manufacturer threatened sailnet with a lawsuit if they did not pull critical posts. That pushed sailnet to eliminate a thread on this manufacturer that detailed how their hulls failed. Very serious issue. Very serious lawyers attacking sailnet. This was seen by some as Sailnet "caving-in", and by others as a good business decision considering how expensive a lawsuit can be. For the former, a lot of people thought this was going to far, since people's lives are on the line. Camraderie stopped moderating as a result.

As a work-around, people started posting positive-only things about this manufacturer, something about "double speak" and 1984 Orwell. (I read the book too long ago to remember if that was really double-speak.) Something about this particular sailboat manufacturer having a really good oil filter.

Fast forward a few weeks. Alex spent a lot of time on write-ups of what he saw at Strictly Sail Chicago a few weeks ago. It was very informative - you felt like you were there, and that you had Alex's experienced eye. Based on the above, Sailnet had to implement a new policy that all critical posts are not allowed. They pulled Alex's work, apparently without telling him.

So there was a mass exodus to another forum which was simply not ready for the frank discussions that a forum-mature group was suddenly bringing to it. The forum just did not have that maturity. Some said the moderator was masquerading as other users, which lent a feeling of "this is not really a forum, it's some guy pretending to have a forum". The moderator there banned a ton of people in one fell swoop. Really a big loss to him, because he was handed the most active sailing forum members in the world, and on a silver platter. He "drove away the golden goose".

So Alex did two things, 1) the class-act that he is, he kept his support for what sailnet was going through. He stayed with Sailnet. And 2) he created his own sailing forum with the support of CK and Cam. With the name anything-sailing.com, it has an attitude that you can say anything. The off-topic is partitioned off so that you have to ask for access, just so you know that anything can be said there. It's free speech with a warning that says: caution, free speech ahead.

Bottom-line is that you'll see Alex here and you'll see him over there.

No manufacturer can stand long when they threaten their target audience. That has to be doubly true in this economy. So maybe I'm an optimist, but I think sailnet will revert to allowing real opinions and facts on products again, once the lawsuit threat has passed. But the credibility of sailnet and other forums has declined. (Hey if it can happen here, it can hapen to other forums, right?) Alex's forum seems to have side-stepped that criticism due to the nature of it birth and the irreverence of it's owner.

Hope that helps.


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I am still here, as ususal, but last week and this week I have a ton of work on an assignment I am finishing now.

Add to this, the new site thatwe opened last Tuesday, with all it's needs, (Cam is away on vacation), and modifications, and truing to create a data base and an interesting forum, and hence..I am not here that much

BUT I do check daily 3 or 4 times..It's just that the subjects lately don't interst me much, were spoken and talked about 1000 times, and my jesty charcter, sees a little too much "critique" from some guys that don't know me...

I do sincerely hope Sailnet posting quality improves, as this is my home too...I just a have a funnier little babay I need to attend to...'
As for the other site, (not mine)...you know..Sufferers....it's dead..not worth it..they don't talk about sailing, just about the same old subject..themselves...all 8 guys, (of which Sully is 5)

So there you have it.

Thanks fopr asking


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