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Beneteau First 38 - No Boom Vang?

Hi! We are in the process of purchasing a Beneteau First 38. For some reason, both boats we looked at lacked boom vangs. But I've seen others online that clearly have them.

Did these boats not come with boom vangs? Is there some reason for them not to have them? I've never sailed on a boat that didn't have one. Any suggestion on whether or not we should get a soft or rigid boom vang given your knowledge of the boat?

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Re: Beneteau First 38 - No Boom Vang?

both Rigid boom support and vang would have been an option

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both Rigid boom support and vang would have been an option
And easy enough to retrofit now. Please do so!!

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Re: Beneteau First 38 - No Boom Vang?

With a rigid vang no topping lift is needed. So you don't have to worry about releasing it, with me was when the wind picked up and I found myself hanging over the rail trying to uncleat it. Another plus with the rigid is you have a nice place for the halyard at the end of the boom.
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both Rigid boom support and vang would have been an option

More to the point, a rigid vang would have been part of the boats standing rigging as delivered. The shock inside a riged vang can fail over time; its perhaps when it was removed. NOT a good deal; its a vital part of the boats rigging.

But a possible explanation might be how the F38 was rigged in the USA. Most came with cabintop travelers, unlike the much better cockpit wide job that was standard on the euro-models. The cabintop model works somewhat like a vang as well because it's so close to the mast. Assuming the vang failed maybe they thought they could do fine without it. I'm betting they were wrong but who knows?

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....The cabintop model works somewhat like a vang as well because it's so close to the mast. .....
This is only really true when close hauled. Once the mainsheet tension is relieved as you bear off there is less and less downward component on the sheet and the boom is free to lift, esp DDW when there is pretty much zero 'vanging' effect from the mainsheet alone regardless of where the traveler is located.

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This is only really true when close hauled. Once the mainsheet tension is relieved as you bear off there is less and less downward component on the sheet and the boom is free to lift, esp DDW when there is pretty much zero 'vanging' effect from the mainsheet alone regardless of where the traveler is located.
Of course. That's why I said it was not a good solution. I was only trying to figure out why they would find that setup on two boats.

But one other point. Many cabintop travelers offer a wider angle of mainsheet trim with vang effect (meaning that the sheet is pulling down). Like on the First 38. You can see the traveler angle is wider that it would be if mounted in the cockpit.

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More to the point, a rigid vang would have been part of the boats standing rigging as delivered.
but it was not, it was an option in 1985 when we looked at buying a new 38. many boats in the 80s did not come with a vang.
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but it was not, it was an option in 1985 when we looked at buying a new 38. many boats in the 80s did not come with a vang.
Wow. Learn something new every day! All the official photos showed one in place, so I assumed it was standard. But the time I was looking at the First 235 three years later; it was standard.

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Re: Beneteau First 38 - No Boom Vang?

seemed like everything was an option. the first series is the performance series but everything performance back then was an option. the check stays were also an option. did not buy one as they seemed just to much money at the time. I remember the salesman saying that with the double mainsheet system you really did not need a vang. they also had a shoal draft and a shorter rig option.
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