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thank you Faster - Thank you Svhylite - Thank you all!! any more feedback is welcome and i will certainly contact beneteau.
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hylite brings up an important point about the liner integrity....I would suggest taking it to the next logical step...

in the Beneteau 36CC, that floor liner is then tied into two "rings" if you will - the fore one supports the fore peak door frame and tabbing as well as the deck assembly, the aft one supports the head door and the passage to the aft cabin door as well as the aft part of the center cockpit deck assembly. Since the 361 used the same hull as the 36CC, I would think a similar setup was used there, as well as the other Marion built boats. Check.

So, what does all this mean...if the bilge/floor liner adhesion to the outer hull has been compromised at those key places, more than likely so has the integrity of the bulkheads and those things they support.

If you look at the 36CC/361 liner it looks like a cupcake pan...more cutout than structure. So speak with the factory and an up to Beneteau surveyor...

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I'm new to this site and my contribution may be well too late. I had the same problem with my F 33.7. We had a repair by a local shipbuilder consisting of cutting away the flat parts of the liner and laminating the strings to the hull. We had the problem in 2005 and are still sailing. The entire liner is part of the structure but cutting away the flat part doesn't degrade the strength if the stringers are well laminated to the hull. This kind of repair could also be done on this 473.
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Re: damage after impact

I wouldnt be too worried about damage to the liner, also the guy is being up front with you so not trying to hide anything
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Re: damage after impact

Aquaholic, this thread is almost two years old. Hopefully the OP has made a decision on the boat by now. It would be interesting to get an update from him, though.

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Re: damage after impact

I'm also looking at purchasing a Beneteau 423 and it seems that I may have the same problem with possible boat grounding and keel separation.


The bulb also looks like it's been repaireddamage after impact-keel-hull-separation.jpg

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Re: damage after impact

Beyond deciding whether you are willing to buy a damaged boat, you have to consider how many may ever want to buy it from you. Be careful.


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I'm also looking at purchasing a Beneteau 423 and it seems that I may have the same problem with possible boat grounding and keel separation.


The bulb also looks like it's been repairedAttachment 13483

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The "Keel Smile" you illustrate is of absolutely no consequence. It is quite commonplace and results for a bit of flex in the joint. There is a little bit of rust staining which is also quite routine. Grind down to the iron and treat in the manner discussed in previous posts in this thread. The discoloration of the finish on the keel bulb may be from the repair of minor damage/scraping. As the profile appears to be quite consistent I suspect it is also of no consequence. To get a better idea of whats so, pull the floorboards in the vicinity of the keel in the salon and take a look at the tabbing between the hull liner and the hull and the keel bolts. I suspect you may find some rusting of the keel bolts but nothing else.

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Re: damage after impact

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It does look like of separated 'tabbing' caused by hull flexing, between the hull liner and the hull and the keel bolts have no rust, I will post a picture for more reference.
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Re: damage after impact

R&J... posting pics via a site like Photobucket.com is a much better way than the attached thumbnails. Free to join and lots of 'space', upload your pictures there, the copy and paste the IMG CODE option (important) and your pic shows up sized for the post (unless the original is tiny) for a better view.

Your shot is a bit small to be able to really see if that's truly separation.. in any event it doesn't look too bad from here...

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