Faulty survey

[jeanfrancoissavard]

Originally Posted by bubb2

What was the date of the survey and when did you buy the boat?

the survey was in april 07 and the boat was bought august 08

[bubb2]

I would have to agree with CardiacPaul, You didn't pay for the survey so who do you have a recourse against. The survey was 14 months old, a lot can change in 14 months.

[paulk]

Ça fait maintenant deux ans depuis l'expertise, et il peut se faire bien des choses avec les ponts laminés en deux ans - surtout au Canada, avec le gel qu'il y a pendant l'hiver. Quand il l'aurait vu, en 2007, ça aurait pu être toujours bien solide. Tu n'as rien remarqué toi-même pendant ta première saison, ou est-ce que tu as vu qqch qui t'as fait chercher un autre expert pour verifier? Il me semble que les chevaux sont déjà sortis; c'est un peu tard pour fermer les portes de l'écurie maintenant.

[jeanfrancoissavard]

Originally Posted by bubb2

What was the date of the survey and when did you buy the boat?

Well, the broker provided me with the survey. I think the broker provided me with wrongfull information. Whether he knew about the deck issue is another thing but he still gave me that information.

[bubb2]

A survey is like a picture, it shows the the condition of the boat on the day of the survey. Not 14 months later. What stopped you from getting your own survey?

Would you buy a used car from a used car salesman who said that a mechanic looked at the car that you were interested in 14 months ago and that mechanic said it was OK?

I don't want to offend you, But are you interested in buying a bridge?

[NolaSafari]

How did he provide you with the survey? Did he hand it to you? Did he hand it to you and say this is the most recent survey? Did he hand it to you and say this is the most recent survey and you don't need one?

Did you inspect the boat, and walk on the deck before the purchase? All the advertising information and information provided by the brokers have so many disclaimers they can tell you anything it is all considered sales puffing. The disclaimers alone tell you it is all BS. You have to become your own subject matter expert. Welcome to the world of used boat buying.

I do wish you the best and hope you can purse a claim against the Broker or Seller but I fear you won't get far. Did you finance the boat, you may want to get your lender involved they carry a bigger stick.

BTW post a copy of the survey so we can see the wording.

[camaraderie]

Paulk...all that stuff in French...stallions and barns...oh my!

Jean Francois...vous etes "screwed". Tant pis...une expérience acquise...Rien ne peut être fait.

[LookingForCruiser]

ha! I just got reamed a similar way, except I paid for my survey... oh well, not much to be done now (except a lot of boat repairs), even with the big problems the first surveyor missed I think I got a good deal on the boat.

[SEMIJim]

Originally Posted by jeanfrancoissavard

Well, the broker provided me with the survey. I think the broker provided me with wrongfull information. Whether he knew about the deck issue is another thing but he still gave me that information.

You may have recourse. IANAL, so I don't know. But I'll say this: IMO you screwed up. You never take consultation from somebody who is not working on your behalf. A survey paid for by somebody else was not done on your behalf.

When we were buying our boat, I had the option of approaching the prior potential buyer, who had had a survey done, with the offer of "buying" the survey from him for half what a new survey would've cost me. And some might say that would've made sense, since it'd been performed just months before and I was going to use the same surveyor, anyway.

I paid to have my own survey done. And I paid a premium to be there during the survey.

I don't get why people are willing to spend thousands on big-ticket items like boats and homes, but get all tight-fisted when it comes to hiring a professional like a surveyor, home inspector or a real estate attorney, to make sure everything is in order.

Btw: It is not uncommon for surveyors to disagree about the condition of a boat's core. My surveyor felt parts of the core on our deck were "marginal." The surveyor and boat-builder who inspected it for the seller felt the core was fine throughout. (For reasons I won't go into, I have reason to trust both the PO's word on this and the other surveyor's belief in his own evaluation.)

Jim

[sailingfool]

Originally Posted by jeanfrancoissavard

well the survey said the decks were in sound condition. I just had a surveyor and shipwright coming on the boat and they clearly stated that the rot in the decks has been going on for years...

So that your pain will provide the most benefit...going into the future, whenever a hesitating boat buyer posts another edition of the the recurring thread that goes something like "...so do I really need a survey...", I'll skip my long answer and just post a link to this tread. Maybe the MOD can make it a sticky.

As to sueing someone, I'd say you are way up the creek without a paddle, you have no one to blame but yourself.