Forever Boat

[tager]

If you read the article closely you will find that the vessel in question had been to Hawaii and back...

Also, about the dreamer video... you should try and read into that song from a different perspective, maybe you will understand what the artists are trying to say. Could you fathom a situation in which an artist decided on a career path that his parents did not approve of? Say... "Mom, Dad, I want to be a rockstar."

[tager]

Well perhaps now that I have developed a short list of desired yachts, we can now discuss schemes for developing an influx of cash. Any novel ideas for a college student who is deeply in debt?

[MikeinLA]

I'm an old fart too, but how 'bout a JOB?

Mike

[sailingdog]

BTW, there was a nice Norsea 27 down at the marina in Annapolis, where the sailnet crew met for dinner during the Annapolis boat show...

[smackdaddy]

Originally Posted by MikeinLA

I'm an old fart too, but how 'bout a JOB?

Mike

Classic. Tager, it's hard to argue with that.

[Faster]

Originally Posted by tager

....Spare running rigging can be a spool of cheap nylon $100.....

Showing some lack of knowledge a bit here, Tager.... nylon would be the worst line for running rigging - save it for your anchor rode.

There's all sorts of ways to get anything done - no one school of thought has to be the only 'right' one. Different strokes for different folks. But there's no need to alienate the voices of experience here on this board.

A couple of years back was a fellow who decided he could build his own 50' trimaran and circle the globe for $25K.... didn't make it 200 miles before the boat started breaking up.

A friend left on his boat for Mexico last year, and during the year or two of preparations he received all kinds of advice - to all of which he nodded, smiled and thanked the 'advisor'..... then turned away, followed what he agreed with and ignored the rest. No ruffled feathers, much of the advice was valid, all of it was well intended. He had a successful trip and has returned to carry on.

[tager]

I don't "lack the knowledge" that nylon has much more elongation at ultimate tensile strength. The idea was that nylon is cheap, and this would be "spare" line, which would likely never leave the locker. Even if it was pressed into use, I doubt that a couple of poor setting halyards or a loose outhaul would doom the voyage. Maybe it would make more sense to invest in extra running rigging of a quality that I would want to use. That way my spares would eventually become the new lines, and I would purchase new "spares".

[bubb2]

ya, ya, ya,

Next tell us how you are planing to take 2 snowboards, a piece of galvanized water pipe and a few muffler clamps and build a self steering wind vane.

[AndrewMac]

I am a relative newbie and also pretty new to SN, so I may well be speaking out of turn here, but I would say that Tager has a point. Bubb2, I don't disagree with the content of your message, but think that Tager may lose the message for the delivery. You may think that you are doing him a favor by being blunt, but you may also simply make it easier to dismiss your points.

Tager, as a bit of background on myself, I grew up sailing the bays on the coast of Maine. I have described myself on other SN posts as a relative newbie with minimal offshore experience, but what little expereince I have is of the variety you don't want. When I graduated college, I went to work in Beijing where I met a New Zealand couple. We started talking sailing and I puffed up my experience over a couple beers. They invited me down to NZ to participate in a race from Auckland to Tonga which I took them up on. I figured I'd sailed from NY to Maine before and it couldn't be that much different, right? You don't hear about this race much, and I can find very little on the internet about it, but here is one article about the race I participated in: Daring rescue made headlines round the world - National - NZ Herald News

I got unlucky with the weather, but very lucky in the seaworthiness of the boat, the experience of the captain and his preparations. I am no salt. There are people who know a lot more than I do around here. But I probably know enough to say that you wouldn't need to get half as unlucky with the weather as I did to find yourself in serious trouble if you went out equipped as you suggest (and don't kid yourself that it would be your luck that you're trusting to). Don't skimp on rigging because you think you'll never need it. Don't assume that you won't need the best communication equipment. Don't think you won't need a life raft and that a dinghy will do. In short, don't trust to your luck - prepare for the extreme - then trust to your luck. I know nothing about offshore sailing, except that if your luck turns, you got nowhere to go.

[bubb2]

Amac, If you look around Sailnet you will see where Tagar has also told a Professional rigger who owns his owns business he's doesn't know he is talking about. I wish I could be that sure of myself if I never sailed on anything but lake Union Wa.

My first post in this thread(Dreamer) was humor, about the costs of refitting and outfitting a offshore boat. Then I made a list of what I thought would be the bare essentials needed to safety take a boat offshore. I was called a old fart and told I don't know what I talking about. So be it!

For anyone who can please tell me and tanger how to rebuild a boat and equip it for offshore for $5,000. I am all ears.