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Would You Buy A Boat With a Neglected Bottom?

Hi all,

I am looking at a boat in my area that I really like. I had a diver video the bottom of the boat and it looked a bit scary. The owner admits to not having hauled it for 8+ years. He does claim to have monthly dive service, but I don't know of any diver that would want to clean a boat with no paint on it.

Anyway, it is a CSY, which has very bullet proof hulls. It has some blisters that I can see, and the shaft zinc looks pretty tired. I really like the boat and feel that I can use this information to get a lower price before the haul-out. Once we all get a better look at the bottom condition in the light of day, adjust the price accordingly.

What do you think? I figure a total bottom job with blister repair, epoxy barrier coat and paint should be maybe $5k. I'll call the yard tomorrow to get a rough estimate. Inside, the boat is bone dry. Might need to replace some through hulls also, but couldn't tell from the video.

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Re: Would You Buy A Boat With a Neglected Bottom?

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Do you intend having her surveyed ?

How bad are the blisters ?

If the zinc is tired, how tired ? Hopefully its not eight years old.

You have to ask yourself why would anyone have a monthly dive service instead of a yearly antifoul ?
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Re: Would You Buy A Boat With a Neglected Bottom?

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Hi all,

I am looking at a boat in my area that I really like. I had a diver video the bottom of the boat and it looked a bit scary. The owner admits to not having hauled it for 8+ years. He does claim to have monthly dive service, but I don't know of any diver that would want to clean a boat with no paint on it.

Anyway, it is a CSY, which has very bullet proof hulls. It has some blisters that I can see, and the shaft zinc looks pretty tired. I really like the boat and feel that I can use this information to get a lower price before the haul-out. Once we all get a better look at the bottom condition in the light of day, adjust the price accordingly.

What do you think? I figure a total bottom job with blister repair, epoxy barrier coat and paint should be maybe $5k. I'll call the yard tomorrow to get a rough estimate. Inside, the boat is bone dry. Might need to replace some through hulls also, but couldn't tell from the video.

Thoughts? Thanks, Bill
Not a problem, just a negotiation point. Those CSY's have the reputation of being almost literally bulletproof so deterioration isn't likely to be a factor.

When it's hauled you need to be sure to get a VERY thorough pressure wash - it should take an hour at least on a boat in the condition you describe. Once it's dried off, hit it with orbitals with 40 grit discs until it looks decent enough to take care of any filling - then work you way through 60 & 80 grit and put on your finish coats.

It's lots of work but doesn't take any special skills. I think your $5K for a yard to do it is probably optimistic - it'll cost in the vicinity of $500 just to purchase the Interprotect, the same for decent bottom paint. There are a LOT of hours in prepping it properly - what do the yards in your area charge per hour?

Boat bottoms are THE most DIY aspect of owning a boat IMO.
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...What do you think? I figure a total bottom job with blister repair, epoxy barrier coat and paint should be maybe $5k. ...l
Yards charge this work by the foot, you haven't said the size of the boat, so don't expect a more useful answer than $100-150/foot.

All glass bottoms are pretty much whatever the builder makes them, owner negligence cant do much permanment harm. The last place to worry about.
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Re: Would You Buy A Boat With a Neglected Bottom?

Thanks for the answers. It is a CSY 44, and yes, I will have it surveyed. I will also get the engine surveyed as well as the rigging.

Thanks again, I'll keep you posted on the progress.

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You have to ask yourself why would anyone have a monthly dive service instead of a yearly antifoul ?
Mate, in California, every boat needs anti fouling paint and even with anti fouling paint, every boat need regular hull cleaning. 12-15 times a year at a minimum in SoCal.
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I am looking at a boat in my area that I really like. I had a diver video the bottom of the boat and it looked a bit scary. The owner admits to not having hauled it for 8+ years. He does claim to have monthly dive service, but I don't know of any diver that would want to clean a boat with no paint on it.
As your diver should have told you, you will learn nothing from an underwater inspection of an uncleaned hull other than the fact that it is not clean. And finding a diver to clean it (regardless of condition) shouldn't be much of a problem. Expect to pay extra if the bottom is badly fouled, but there are plenty of divers in your area who would love the work, I guarantee it.
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