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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

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$20,000.00 for this one and it is not the only one in that range...

It is a 1984 30' IP sloop.
Clean on the inside too.
Really nice looking boats.
I found it right here....Used 1984 Island Packet Sloop, Naples, Fl - 34102 - BoatTrader.com
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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

I almost doubted myself for a second there, that was weird..

The IP 30 or whatever length it is has this interior


If they are not the same maker they are so close it is confusing. I think the deck shot in the first picture was taken at a screwy angle from above, you can see the portholes in one of the other photos and they look like they should for the IP boats.

This is another one an IP 27, interior for comparison



This one is $40,000.00 if you were interested
Used 1992 Island Packet Ip 27 (hull 242), Jacksonville, Fl - 32256 - BoatTrader.com
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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

Thanks mark, I am of course just looking at them. the plan to sail and live aboard may not ever happen but stranger things have happened.
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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

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I almost doubted myself for a second there, that was weird..

The IP 30 or whatever length it is has this interior


If they are not the same maker they are so close it is confusing. I think the deck shot in the first picture was taken at a screwy angle from above, you can see the portholes in one of the other photos and they look like they should for the IP boats.

This is another one an IP 27, interior for comparison



This one is $40,000.00 if you were interested
Used 1992 Island Packet Ip 27 (hull 242), Jacksonville, Fl - 32256 - BoatTrader.com
The boat is a 27' even though the ad says LOA is 30' because they have included the bowsprit in the measurement. The IP31 actually measures 34'4" overall counting the bowsprit. There is a huge difference between the IP31 and the IP27.
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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

Interior of my IP31 although not very descriptive.

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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

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I almost doubted myself for a second there, that was weird..

The IP 30 or whatever length it is has this interior


If they are not the same maker they are so close it is confusing. I think the deck shot in the first picture was taken at a screwy angle from above, you can see the portholes in one of the other photos and they look like they should for the IP boats.

This is another one an IP 27, interior for comparison



This one is $40,000.00 if you were interested
Used 1992 Island Packet Ip 27 (hull 242), Jacksonville, Fl - 32256 - BoatTrader.com
I think it is a 27, they just added in the length of the bow spirit. Looks like it needs quite a bit of work. and that is a bit of cheating going by length over all, though that is what you will likely pay slip fees on. And the blurry pictures really don't help much.

There are a couple of issues with IPs that I think are really not good in a boat in there price range. First is the ballast, encapsulated to start with and topped off with concrete. While some are fond of encapsulated keels, I don't think the mix of loose lead and iron (seems to very from boat to boat) that is mixed with a resin then topped off with concrete spells quality. I also don't like the way they build the chain plates into the hull inside the fiberglass, so inspection is impossible without cutting into the hull and buried behind lots of cabinetry. This just begs for crevice corrosion and failure at the worst time. And finally the one complaint I have heard from some older boats is that the tanks are prone to corrosion and very hard to replace under the floors, not that many boats make it easy. Just seems all three systems are made to fail and don't allow any inspection and adds unnecessarily to any repair costs.

For me these issues would be far more acceptable in a lower price point boat, but not at what they get for these boats. Not that I could afford one, or really want one.

I see seaducion posted at the same time as me.

By the way Boat Trader seems to just scrape listings and does no validation of any kind.

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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

Denise, the debate here seems to be whether IP's are "true bluewater boats".

I'm a bay sailor with no aspirations to cross oceans; the IP's I've been on have been very nice boats, roomy and comfortable below and seemingly well made and solid.

The IP owners I've talked to all seem to be happy with their boats. I have noticed sailing near them on the bay that it takes a bit of wind to get them moving though. They're not light air boats, but I'd imagine that would mean a more comfortable motion.

BTW, how is your boat doing on her mooring? I was in Trenton today and was shocked at how high the Delaware was running with all this rain. There must be some interesting stuff washing down the river
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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

Not a debate from my point of view. I just like what I see. But I love Caba Rico too. Y'all can debate about blue water till the cows come home

Jim, The river is looking like the ole Miss A Sipp! I'm checking in at the club in the mornig. so far no news is good news.
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Seaduct, I don't seen any "Bailey's" on the shelf! Lovely boat... dunno bout your choice in crystal
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Re: Island Packet and Cape Dory 33- 40 range.

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Not a debate from my point of view. I just like what I see. But I love Caba Rico too. Y'all can debate about blue water till the cows come home

Jim, The river is looking like the ole Miss A Sipp! I'm checking in at the club in the mornig. so far no news is good news.
Cabo Rico, now that's one nice boat.
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