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Re: Complete Newbie...No Idea What I'm Doing...

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Sort of looking at the Ranger 33 right now...seems to have (almost) everything I'm looking for...
Does anyone know how the dinette converts into another bed? I'm thinking that because my girlfriend and I will be living on the boat, sleeping there might be the best option for us...and I'm a tall guy...6'1". Need the room!
What I really want to do is find someone here in the Bay Area who has a 70's Ranger 33 I can take a look at...just trying to narrow down my options.
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Outstanding boats. Sweet personality, surprisingly nimble, decent build quality. Expect leaks and wet decks. Many were A4 powered: a newer diesel adds much value, but again, don't line out the A4. Esp. because you live in the world's best place to get one fixed. The Ranger 33 is relatively narrow for its size. Goodly stowage, but cramped, dark, and poorly ventilated. If planning a tropical move, be ready to go nuts on the hatches, dorades, portlights, etc. (That's what we are doing now on the Albin.)

You should be able to find a shiny Ranger with an A4, or a more tired-looking specimen with a newer Yanmar, for right around your $15k budget. I'd count on another $10-15 in refits before taking any long trips, but that can be spread out over several years. When you are done, the boat will be worth ... $15k. Oh well.
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Re: Complete Newbie...No Idea What I'm Doing...

If you don't know how to sail, buy a sloop-rigged dinghy. You'll learn more sailing a dinghy for a few weeks than you'll learn sailing a 27-35 foot boat for years.
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Those are very wise words Slowbut.
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Re: Complete Newbie...No Idea What I'm Doing...

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1) Am I completely insane to think that I can find a decent boat for under $15k that will be "comfortable" to live on and sail down to Mexico or anywhere else in the world???
2) If I am NOT insane, what should I be looking for? What are the best liveaboard boats that will meet my needs? (Decent sleeping for two side by side, shower, etc.)
3) If I am insane, please, someone slap some sense into me because all I can think about is sailing the open seas and ditching the real world!
1) Maybe not insane, but if you trim this dream in the short run to stick to coastal sailing, your budget just got a lot more reasonable. Blue water boats are expensive, and rightly so.
2) I would ask the person you intend to live/sail with you, not us, what the minimum standards for comfort are.
3) There are lots of people doing this, and many of them have blogs. I find reading them both inspiring and a great reality check. (Many seem to come back to shore after a few years, lured by comforts more easily found on land.)

My advice is to get some sailing experience before you decide how far you want to go on a boat. Not every sailor likes being out of sight of land, far from aid if anything goes wrong, and with no recourse in a storm but riding it through. I'd also use the time to downsize your life and increase your cruising budget. Whatever boat you buy, live and sail it locally for several months first, to give things a chance to break (and yourself time to learn) from the comfort of home.
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Re: Complete Newbie...No Idea What I'm Doing...

Everyone is giving me some very sound advice. I want to make something clear...I'm not running out and buying a boat tomorrow. What I'm doing is a bit of soul searching. I've been presented a great opportunity in my life to be able to do something bigger than just work to pay a mortgage, buy a nice car...persue the "American dream." I've been there, done that.
There's even the possibility that my girlfriend won't really be into this lifestyle choice. But I'm living my life for me. Why not to this? Why not sell everything I have and consolidate my life? I feel like I'm persuing a dream here. A dream I want to become a reality. I'm just trying to gain the proper perspective on it because I'm so new to this idea. only been thinking about it for a few months. Bit everyone's feedback is greatly appreciated!!!!
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You will know for sure if the lifestyle is for her after her first trip to the head.
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Re: Complete Newbie...No Idea What I'm Doing...

Search for CruisingDad's posts and read about his lifestyle. If that's for you (and obviously it works for him), then go for it. None of us is saying don't do it. But what we're saying is, the best way to eat this elephant is to do it in small bites. Make sure it's right for you before you make a huge commitment.

What you have to understand is that everyone here really enjoys sailing, and we want to share that enjoyment with others, and watch you grow too. What we don't want is for you to hate it because you get yourself into a situation that you regret. Or that you do something that is incredibly unsafe and get yourself or others killed or seriously hurt.

So, again, nobody is saying that the lifestyle you've described is outside of your reach. We're just suggesting that a more measured approach might be best.
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Wow, Jimgo has just given you some sage advice that you won;t get in many places. I am impressed and you should be too. We want this to be fun and safe for you.
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