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Yes you are correct and soon the world will see your wisdom and all the best boats will have full keels once again.

The full keel shall rise again!

" if the boat was well sailed it wouldn't be midpack, it would be first (on corrected time)"
Well, that would all depend on the rating wouldn't it. The rating could be so fast that Dennis Connor couldn't win with it. But there again, reality has no place in this argument. Youy see what you want to see.

And if you have trouble reading drawings GB let me help you. The drawing posted clearly shows a GRP boat. There is no evidence of wooden structure. But don't let reality bother you.

Full keels forever!

Bob, let me help you out, the design was built in wood and fg. Forgive me for pointing out that the boat in the picture is not the boat in the Rally. Unless you have personal knowledge of the boat in the rally you don't know if it is built from wood or fg. The design was first produced in 1964 apparently.

Concerning the rating, are you saying that the numbers could be wrong? hahahaha .... you who flourish PHRF like a trump card?


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The full keel shall rise again!
I do hope not. That would mean he's turtled.. and in mid ocean, too!
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Speak English please.

Come out of your cave. It is 2013 not 1948. If you like your heavy, full keel boat that's just great. Enjoy. Many of us prefer more modern designs. They have proven over and over to be better boats. If full keels boats were better boats we would be sailing them today.

But they are not. I like all kinds of boats but I appreciate them for what they are and not what they are not. I don't try to pretend they are something else. I can understand that you have have a problem with this. I just can't understand why. Look around. The time of the full keel boat as a presentative of a performance craft has come and gone.

Gb I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Could you please sum it up in one cogent and succinct statement? What is your point?

Unfortunately I'll have to miss it. I have to drive in to Seattle tonight to play some music with some old buddies, Red Crane, 175th Aurora N.
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Enthusiastic? haha ...
The fact is that this very old design full keel boat (is it built from wood?) is sailing boat for boat better than bigger more modern "faster" boats.
Yes you are right but that does not prove nothing except the boat is much better sailed than those bigger ones. None of those bigger boats that are behind is a performance cruiser or even a contemporary cruiser.

Anyway I did not say more modern, I said modern meaning contemporary and not any modern boat but a performance cruiser.

You (and others) said that a modern performance cruiser loaded would not be faster than an old design with full keel loaded. Here you just don't have any performance cruiser with the size of that old keeler and you just don't have the number of boats to take any relevant conclusion.

Let's wait for the big ARC where there are several old designs and also several performance cruisers with roughly the same size. That should take away any doubts.

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You ask for a simple explanation of what someone is laboring at trying to say and
"poof" they are gone.
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You ask for a simple explanation of what someone is laboring at trying to say and
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The topic is "full keel". Am I the only one who is on topic lately? All it takes to raise the ire of some posters is a simple post pointing out that the only full keel boat in the rally is sailing quite well thank you.

Please try not to be so emotional about this.
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No thanks Gb. Keep your advice.
I've made a nice living being "emotional" about boats. I call it being "passionate". It has served and still serves me very well. I see no reason at all to change my approach.

Here is another "emotional" expression of my work.
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Which design is that Bob? I like it. Don't recognize it though.
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That's my latest design for an East Coast client.





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Re: Full Keel

That is a beauty!

Interesting you list specs we usually don't see: righting moment, wetted surface area, lbs. per sq. in., etc.

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