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Right, all those boats are heaving to for meals.
Point being that for anyone that is not there like Paulo, you or me, we really don't know.

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Too bad there are not any Westsail 32's in the ARC - an obvious winner.

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Point being that for anyone that is not there like Paulo, you or me, we really don't know.
Exactly. What we do know is that the older design full keel is sailing faster than the more modern design. Do you agree?
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poof, he is gone.
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poof, he is gone.
Not gone, just had to walk my dog in a snowstorm.

It is getting there faster, why we don't know. We can only guess.

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I'm going to guess that it is moving through the water faster.... You guess that all the more modern boats are heaving to for meals.
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I'm guessing that the Laurin is being sailed better - beyond that who knows?

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Well, shouldn't the Modern boats be faster than the Laurin even if sailed "worse"? After all, according to the go fast gurus there is absolutely no comparison in speed between the old boat and the modern boat.....right?

Perhaps the modern boats are all towing drogues? Who knows ..it might be possible....
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Well, enough fun for me for one day. Enjoy the beautiful area you live in Brian, we were there about 2 months ago and loved it
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PCP, this is for you, But I dislike getting off topic and I apologize.
I agree that a Bavaria Match 42 is probably faster than a Malo 43 on a short race course. (please dig up the PHRF numbers and help me out) It is a nice looking boat and has all the “fast” features. (pull up a picture and help me out again) Now put a 12’ RIB on the foredeck. The 20hp, 4stroke, outboard can go on the stern rail. The gasoline jerry jugs should be kept close by too. Are the bicycles on the stern rail also or are they in bags in the forepeak. This cruising boat will need extra water. Are the jerry jugs properly tied down along the deck or are you using a water maker? Don’t forget the extra diesel to run the charging system to make that water. You will be arriving at an anchorage. Don’t forget the stern anchor, and you’d better be prepared with a third anchor because s### happens. All the other stuff, the other 2000#s can be put away - somewhere. All in all you should just about be ready. Too bad all of that stuff is all above the waterline. Like anti-ballast. If you think you are ready, then go. It’s too bad though that you have had to add 60 seconds per mile to your trip. What’s the PHRF again?
PCP, I know this was all very childish but please be honest with me. Is the Bavaria Match 42 that is in the ARC+, however it may be configured, really as fast as the empty, crewed, Bavaria that is frequently raced?
Another exercise would be to visualize the very same kind of outfitting but on the smaller , modern, boats. If you do, you will visualize a slow boat. And Yes, it will be slower than a Laurin, or Westsail 32.

Arglye38: All of the references to the ARC+ are “boat for boat” references. The ARC+ was run before the ARC and had only a single full keeled boat in it. A Laurin 32. It is a bit late but check this out:
worldcruising.com/arc/eventfleetviewer.asp
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