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Ok I am a sucker for IOR (and older boats in general) boats. I saw a listing for a Carter 33 and thought great looks to be in great shape. I looked at one a few years ago, that was more work than I wanted to deal with. This one looks beautiful, really nice. The price I noticed was very high, so I email the broker (I have dealt with them before and have not been impressed, but at least this time they got back to me quickly) noting that there must be a mistake the boat could not possibly be listed for 95,000. I assumed they just typed an extra zero and they replied back that it was the right price. Granted it has just been redone, but come one that is more than 10 times what the last one I looked at went for and I know there is no way that it is worth 90,000 more than the other one. Why would a broker even list such a thing? No to mention why would a broker use Craigslist as there primary advertizing?

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Also listed on sailboat listings. Yachtworld has a nice selection of carters. Not a cheap boat. Looks like carter 33 asking 20K to 45K. 95K does seam a little out of line.
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Looks like someone trying to get their "investment" back from the work that was done.
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Also listed on sailboat listings. Yachtworld has a nice selection of carters. Not a cheap boat. Looks like carter 33 asking 20K to 45K. 95K does seam a little out of line.
I see the highest one listed on Yacht world is 38,000 and that is a wood version made in Austraila, cheapest at 15,000 including taxes but all in Europe and there prices are way higher than ours. The last one I saw that actually sold in our aria was under $10,000 but needed work. I will say they are really nice. They were made by at least 4 different companies, not sure if there is a difference in value on them. Made in Sweden first, then UK and Greece and Australia. May be a nice boat but it is still an out of date IOR 1/2 ton boat. I am sure it is worth $25,000 to the right buyer, but chances of finding them on craigslist? Unlikely, craigslist price I think is less than 20,000. Craigslist is for bargain hunters.

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Looks like someone trying to get their "investment" back from the work that was done.
Yea, exactly what I was thinking. Oh and the one thing that is not really a good advertising point it says:
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That sounds a bit excessive, certainly not low maintenance.

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Make an offer in December. (and then again next December)
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Re: prices prices, what are they thinking

I read an interesting note from someone that said that procrastinating over price of the boat for 10 years meant he could not go sailing for those 10 years.

It sort of makes you wonder about that horrible old term: "Get a life". But it does mean something. Why waste your life on a dream and punch yourself over someone elses mistaken idea of the value of a boat? Scrub it from your mind and go buy something you can afford and live life NOW.

And... something you dont need to waste your life working on.


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I saw the same CL listing last week and got a chuckle. Couple of years ago we bought a '39 Ford 9N tractor for $250. It had been sitting in a field for 20 years uncovered. My bud had it running in 45 minutes. So we started the resto process. $6k later we have a beautiful $2500 tractor.

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The carter price is interesting as I always wonder how Tim Lackey customer's despite the prefect restores have been able to justify the price and also insure the boats ?

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There's a sucker born every minute?

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Re: prices prices, what are they thinking

I've seen a few like that - total restorations where the mouldings are about the only thing remaining of the original boat. In truth they ARE worth big bucks - compare them to new boats of similar sizes.

Having said that though - no-one is likely to pay it. Why don't fully and properly restored boats have a market like restored cars? People will pay 7 figures for many restored cars.

A few years ago there was a conversion very much like lackey's daysailor Triton conversion on YW - asking $175K as I recall.

Lackey just did a total remake of a Tartan 34 - how much is that boat worth? What would a new 34' Tartan go for?

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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