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In talking to the broker, he told us to look out for boats that have their name on the bow because that means they are/were charter boats.

Later, I saw a Sabre 38 with the name on the bow and I wondered if that advice is always true. Sabre isn't a name you see in charter fleets, at least I've never seen it.

So I was wondering if anyone knows private owners who choose to put the name of the boat on the bow and don't charter?
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In talking to the broker, he told us to look out for boats that have their name on the bow because that means they are/were charter boats.

Later, I saw a Sabre 38 with the name on the bow and I wondered if that advice is always true. Sabre isn't a name you see in charter fleets, at least I've never seen it.

So I was wondering if anyone knows private owners who choose to put the name of the boat on the bow and don't charter?
Rubbish. Half the boats in our club have names on the bow and none have been in charter. We added HyLyte's name on her bows, along her shear stripe, so that it could be seen when the yacht is bow-in in a mooring.
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Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

I've never heard that. It doesn't mean it's not true, but also, none of the charter boats in my marina, nor any that I remember seeing in the BVI had the boat name on the bow.

The closest I've seen to that are boats that had the boat name on a sign board that they hung near the foredeck in some way rather than painting it on the hull.

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Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

I've seen plenty of privately-owned boats - sail & power - with their name on the bow...and I would imagine that the vast majority (if not all due to where I sail) were never in charter service. But I must know...where SHOULD the name be placed, per this broker? I certainly wouldn't want to have anyone think my boat is available for charter because of the location of the name!
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Find a new broker!
More likely they are documented vessels and don't need to display a state registration.
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I'm with jsaronson, find a broker who knows what he is talking about

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In talking to the broker, he told us to look out for boats that have their name on the bow because that means they are/were charter boats.

Later, I saw a Sabre 38 with the name on the bow and I wondered if that advice is always true. Sabre isn't a name you see in charter fleets, at least I've never seen it.
Sheesh!?!

Where do you find these people. That is absolutely the most inane comment ever.

btw, I owned a Sabre 38 for years, with the name on the bow and the stern, per the USCG requirements for documented vessels, and it was never chartered.

I would definitely find a knowledgeable (or at least someone who doesn't make stuff up) broker to work with. If he is this clueless about documented boats, what other important knowledge is he missing.

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DITTO! The one you are talking to is a moron!
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Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

Absolutely not true on any level. I've charted plenty, not one had a name on the bow.
Appears your broker chartered from a company that did that so that folks walking down the pier could find their boat. One doesn't mean all.

In fact, if the boat is documented most states (and the USCG) require the name be on the aft 1/3 of the boat.
My boat will have the name on the bow in the shear stripe as well as on the stern just because I want it that way.

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Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

I went to the USGC website and found this under Markings: The vessel name of a commercial vessel must also be marked on the port and starboard bow and the vessel name and the hailing port must also be marked on the stern.

Since charter boats fall under the commercial vessel category, it would seem the broker was right, IF the boat was documented.

Can you even have a charter boat that operates under state regulations? I've heard in Illinois, you can't. So if you want to charter your boat, it has to be documented. But I can't find anything on the state level online either way.

We were in Wisconsin at the time so maybe that's the case there too.
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