Name on Bow = Charter Boat? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree5Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-23-2013
JulieMor's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 853
Thanks: 47
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 4
JulieMor is on a distinguished road
Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

In talking to the broker, he told us to look out for boats that have their name on the bow because that means they are/were charter boats.

Later, I saw a Sabre 38 with the name on the bow and I wondered if that advice is always true. Sabre isn't a name you see in charter fleets, at least I've never seen it.

So I was wondering if anyone knows private owners who choose to put the name of the boat on the bow and don't charter?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 07-23-2013
svHyLyte's Avatar
Old as Dirt!
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa Bay Area
Posts: 2,714
Thanks: 13
Thanked 104 Times in 99 Posts
Rep Power: 6
svHyLyte is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JulieMor View Post
In talking to the broker, he told us to look out for boats that have their name on the bow because that means they are/were charter boats.

Later, I saw a Sabre 38 with the name on the bow and I wondered if that advice is always true. Sabre isn't a name you see in charter fleets, at least I've never seen it.

So I was wondering if anyone knows private owners who choose to put the name of the boat on the bow and don't charter?
Rubbish. Half the boats in our club have names on the bow and none have been in charter. We added HyLyte's name on her bows, along her shear stripe, so that it could be seen when the yacht is bow-in in a mooring.
Attached Thumbnails
Name on Bow = Charter Boat?-spyc-2.jpg  
__________________
"It is not so much for its beauty that the sea makes a claim upon men's hearts, as for that subtle something, that quality of air, that emanation from the waves, that so wonderfully renews a weary spirit."
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 07-23-2013
DRFerron's Avatar
A mod and her dragon
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,924
Thanks: 58
Thanked 135 Times in 125 Posts
Rep Power: 10
DRFerron is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

I've never heard that. It doesn't mean it's not true, but also, none of the charter boats in my marina, nor any that I remember seeing in the BVI had the boat name on the bow.

The closest I've seen to that are boats that had the boat name on a sign board that they hung near the foredeck in some way rather than painting it on the hull.
__________________
Donna


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Catalina 30 TRFK

Contributing Editor
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
magazine

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Rock Hall Cruising Station

All things that are, are equally removed from being nothing. John Donne
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to DRFerron For This Useful Post:
chef2sail (07-23-2013)
  #4  
Old 07-23-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 106
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 5
nolesailor is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

I've seen plenty of privately-owned boats - sail & power - with their name on the bow...and I would imagine that the vast majority (if not all due to where I sail) were never in charter service. But I must know...where SHOULD the name be placed, per this broker? I certainly wouldn't want to have anyone think my boat is available for charter because of the location of the name!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 07-23-2013
jsaronson's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 852
Thanks: 3
Thanked 23 Times in 23 Posts
Rep Power: 3
jsaronson is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

Find a new broker!
More likely they are documented vessels and don't need to display a state registration.
jimkyle99 likes this.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 07-23-2013
boatpoker's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,053
Thanks: 8
Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 7
boatpoker is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

I'm with jsaronson, find a broker who knows what he is talking about
__________________
Dirt People Scare me
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 07-23-2013
kd3pc's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Callao, VA
Posts: 1,340
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 8
kd3pc is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JulieMor View Post
In talking to the broker, he told us to look out for boats that have their name on the bow because that means they are/were charter boats.

Later, I saw a Sabre 38 with the name on the bow and I wondered if that advice is always true. Sabre isn't a name you see in charter fleets, at least I've never seen it.
Sheesh!?!

Where do you find these people. That is absolutely the most inane comment ever.

btw, I owned a Sabre 38 for years, with the name on the bow and the stern, per the USCG requirements for documented vessels, and it was never chartered.

I would definitely find a knowledgeable (or at least someone who doesn't make stuff up) broker to work with. If he is this clueless about documented boats, what other important knowledge is he missing.

YMMV
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 07-23-2013
denverd0n's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 865
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 7
denverd0n is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsaronson View Post
Find a new broker!
DITTO! The one you are talking to is a moron!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 07-23-2013
chucklesR's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Pasadena Md - Magothy side
Posts: 5,978
Thanks: 10
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 10
chucklesR is a jewel in the rough chucklesR is a jewel in the rough chucklesR is a jewel in the rough
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

Absolutely not true on any level. I've charted plenty, not one had a name on the bow.
Appears your broker chartered from a company that did that so that folks walking down the pier could find their boat. One doesn't mean all.

In fact, if the boat is documented most states (and the USCG) require the name be on the aft 1/3 of the boat.
My boat will have the name on the bow in the shear stripe as well as on the stern just because I want it that way.
__________________
Lessons learned are opportunities earned.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 07-23-2013
JulieMor's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 853
Thanks: 47
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 4
JulieMor is on a distinguished road
Re: Name on Bow = Charter Boat?

I went to the USGC website and found this under Markings: The vessel name of a commercial vessel must also be marked on the port and starboard bow and the vessel name and the hailing port must also be marked on the stern.

Since charter boats fall under the commercial vessel category, it would seem the broker was right, IF the boat was documented.

Can you even have a charter boat that operates under state regulations? I've heard in Illinois, you can't. So if you want to charter your boat, it has to be documented. But I can't find anything on the state level online either way.

We were in Wisconsin at the time so maybe that's the case there too.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why We Will Never Charter Our Boat... Maine Sail General Discussion (sailing related) 22 09-07-2011 10:56 AM
can i charter my boat? christianoronaldo Chartering 7 03-03-2011 01:19 PM
Would you charter an old boat? billbalme Pacific Seacraft 11 11-29-2009 01:30 PM
CHARTER YOUR BOAT??? asilverman General Discussion (sailing related) 0 08-28-2001 06:42 PM
I WANT TO CHARTER YOUR BOAT asilverman Chartering 0 08-28-2001 06:16 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:53 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.