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I already have several surveys that people have sent me.
My idea is that with a broad cross section of surveys I can create a master super checklist which I am willing to share when it is done.

Would you be willing to send me a copy of any surveys you have.

If you want to redact personal info I understand completely. If personal information is included it will be ignored as it is not important for my purposes.

If you want to share even more I would like to know.
1. Did you buy the boat
If so for how much. What did you find out that the survey missed?

If you didn't buy the boat why not?
Price
Problem
Better boat.

If folks are willing to send me the raw data I'm willing to compile it and report back my findings.
I'm hoping that with sufficient data I can make some contribution to understanding the buying and selling process.

I've been on this forum for over 5 years so I'm well aware that some of you may have very strong opinions about why you would never share for free something that cost you a thousand dollars or more.


To that very legitimate issue let me make a few comments:
  • I am fully aware that no one owes me anything. It cost you a lot of money and you may figure that if I want a survey I can pay for my own. If you don't want to send it for any reason I completely understand.
  • Some people will be happy to send it though because even though it cost so much at the time it doesn't cost you anything to share it and maybe I can extract some general principles from it.
  • I know several sailnet members personally and some have already sent me their surveys, thanks.
  • I will keep private anything you tell me to keep private.

This is the address to send your survey to.
davidm203 at gmail.com
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I doubt mine has anything you haven't seen. I'll see if I can find a redactable copy and send it to you.

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Re: Calling all surveys

David,

My boat is so old... that I don't have the first or subsequent insurance survey reports in e-format, or perhaps even on paper.

Are you mostly interested in pre-purchase surveys or would a subsequent insurance survey be helpful, if I can find it?

Sounds like a good idea to me.

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Re: Calling all surveys

You might ask one of your local surveyors for his form.
On my survey there was a "findings" section where the surveyor listed the items he felt needed attention. These were ranked from Serious ( structural) Safety(propane etc) to the more rudimentary nuisance items.

The list of equipment, gear etc was something I had already inventoried...

I wanted my surveyor to focus on the important things: Hull, thru hulls, rudder, rigging, ground tackle,engine, propane system and electrical wiring.


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David,

My boat is so old... that I don't have the first or subsequent insurance survey reports in e-format, or perhaps even on paper.

Are you mostly interested in pre-purchase surveys or would a subsequent insurance survey be helpful, if I can find it?

Sounds like a good idea to me.

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Insurance surveys would be interesting as I have would like to see how they differ.

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You might ask one of your local surveyors for his form.
On my survey there was a "findings" section where the surveyor listed the items he felt needed attention. These were ranked from Serious ( structural) Safety(propane etc) to the more rudimentary nuisance items.

The list of equipment, gear etc was something I had already inventoried...

I wanted my surveyor to focus on the important things: Hull, thru hulls, rudder, rigging, ground tackle,engine, propane system and electrical wiring.
I have already done that with a few surveyor's but some of them feel that their form is part of their secret sauce.

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The list of equipment, gear etc was something I had already inventoried...

I wanted my surveyor to focus on the important things: Hull, thru hulls, rudder, rigging, ground tackle,engine, propane system and electrical wiring.
That is a very interesting Idea.
Surveyor spend a lot of time on inventory.
If you do it form them they have a little more pressure to really focus on anomalies.

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I doubt mine has anything you haven't seen. I'll see if I can find a redactable copy and send it to you.
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If you get lazy I'll redact it for you.
Hopefully my 5 plus years hear has given me some credibility.
But I understand your concerns.

I'm looking forward to what you find.

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David has the survey for our boat. And he provided it back to me when I couldn't find it!

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David has the survey for our boat. And he provided it back to me when I couldn't find it!

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That's funny I forgot about that.

How about that guys, free survey backup service, cheaper than Mosey or Carbonite.

I've gotten a few, could use some more.

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