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post #11 of 22 Old 05-15-2008
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Thanks Jeff for the bit of the history I understood.... I have never been a racer so do not understand the initials and terminology...sorry... Some of the things I read about the boat talked loudly about it's love of "big water".... and I don't know about the Fastnet Disaster....sorry again... I would like to know about "disposable boats". There are many things I am a true neophyte about....I have quite a bit of experience with much larger commercial power vessels, but new to sailboats other than a few small stick and rag boats and a nice sharpie I enjoyed a while... Thanks Again,

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Talking mm30

not even close, My mm30 is very seaworthy.not designed by creekmore. Perry was the designer. Ask Chuck Moore about this boat. I love it and could live on it. beam 10.5. 6500 lbs disp.
cost in 79 was 28000. not a cheap boat.
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corrrection Peter Canning at last check
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Wink Metalmast

Jeff,
Is this the Metalmast Marine Co. from CT that also built the 40' Block Island?
That is a nice boat if it was the Bill Tripp designed ketch. It resembles more of a
nice cruiser than a notable racer. Is the Block Is. a very average or better than average sailboat?
Why then is their 30 ft. IOR such an average sailboat?

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Metalmast 30

Hi Me,

We raced against a very well sailed one of these on Lake Michigan for many years. In terms of performance and sailplan it sails very much like a J30 and is very good in light air. I cannot comment on the construction quality but the one we know of was raced hard both around the cans and point to point and seemed no worse for wear. If I were going cruising in one perhaps you might want to consider the sailplan some. Of course your idea about the roller furler is spot on, but such an easily driven boat, without a race crew on board for added righting moment may not require such a large headsail. I'd consider 110% or so as the big main on this fractional rig is where most of the power comes from. The boat we raced against had a bolt rope main with a very large maximum roach. If the mainsail on your new boat is one of these, and in good shape, I'd consider making it flatter and with less roach and adding a Tides Marine Strong track and cars so that the luff can be captured in the mast, as well as to assist with sail handling in general. I'd also consider a full batten arrangement. The runners on this boat are necessary to provide headstay tension as the spreadersare not swept back. I'd also consider swapping those out for some Amsteel soft ones versus the stainless steel it probably now has.

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Metalmast 30 Facts

Metalmast 30
I've owned one for 16 years, number 14
Built in Putnam CT by Metalmast Marine (still in business I think, making spars)
Designer - Peter Canning - lived in CT
Balsa Cored Deck, Foam Cored Haul. Construction very good.
You will not break a MM30, weight 7500lbs, 3000lb keel
It was built has a masthead or fractional 7/8 (mostly fractionals)
I rate 147, I have had my rate changed twice, started at 162.
Has 6 foot headroom, nice cabin, great cockpit, tiller steering, wide flat decks
Good light air boat.
Fun to sail
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Thanks Metalmast....
You have in one paragraph given me more info about my boat then all others combined.... Thank You very much.... mine is #5 and has seen better days, but still a very capable boat. Please contact me if you have a chance... they won't let me post my email.... but I do appreciate your post... Thanks again,

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Thanks to you as well Mr. Dog... Maybe try Jacob at happybeachbum dot com and see if that will work... I get to learn new things all the time.... **:-)

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Peter Canning designed this boat and as for the phrf no. It has been changed.THis boat is very solid and very seaworthy. Dont really know what you mean by half tonner. Mine has 3100 lbs of ballast and weighs 3 and a quarter tons.Mine is a 79.It apparently hit a bridge and was dismasted in Fla. I have replaced Mast ,Boom,Running Rigging And new sails. Thats just the major stuff. I am not racing tho. Just having a blast. The most wind I have been out in was just 25 knots. Full Sails with full control.
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