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Want to buy a used 40-50 live aboard Sail

How would you rank the manufactures of 20 year old or less boats for quality.

Looking for suggestions.
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Re: Want to buy a used 40-50 live aboard Sail

That's a pretty broad question. A boat designed for coastal cruising could be high in the ranks compared to other boats designed for coastal cruising, but it might be at the bottom compared to offshore-capable boats. Now, if you bought a boat that could do both, that skews it.

And people have lived aboard boats that barely float as well as on offshore-capable boats that they never took away from the dock.

Throw into the mix that any ranking is that person's opinion based on his or her needs/wants and I'm not sure that you can get a definitive answer. Take the Mahina list for example. It does not include lots of boats that many people consider worthy offshore boats and includes a few that someone may not put their mother in law on.
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Re: Want to buy a used 40-50 live aboard Sail

I think you will find the list on this page to be very good, they sure put a lot of time into it, and I have looked on sailboatdata.com at every one of the ones mentioned and they all seem to be very well made for blue water or coastal cruising.

You have to scroll down a ways to get to the lists, but read over the things they are telling us about the basic designs and keels and so forth, I think you will find it a good source.

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The absolute best boat in the world is the one you own. the only better one is the next one!
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The best thing to do for someone just getting into sailboats to live on, is to buy one about 30 to 35 foot well below your price range, try it out, figure out what you like what you don't like, and what you really want in your next boat. Then in 3-5 years buy what you really want (not what others tell you that you should want)

You will find that everyone has a different opinion on what to buy. Spend the time on your new boat learning the differences between coastal & blue water boats, boats that pound & those that are comfortable in a seaway, faster is not always better nor is slow & stable always safer. Take your time & enjoy the process and don't cheat yourself of the experience.
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Re: Want to buy a used 40-50 live aboard Sail

On one hand, and to a certain point newer is better. At 20 years problems are cropping up all over the place. Deck fittings need re-set @ every 10 years...

Point is, at that point older isn't worse. I have a Bermuda 40 with a fathometer. Good to 400' depth! It'll work another 40 years. Newer electronics are not built to last...ie an I phone battery life is 18 months...So yeah, a newish boat won't blow up in your face but a 20 year old boat can. On the other hand, a 30-40 year old boat with simple systems and in good shape could well be a wiser investment. Many newer boats are all plastic...my 1981 Tartan 37 is a good example. Has a Cetec Benmar auto pilot. You should see it. Huge gears and chain. Very durable unit. Newer ones have plastic housings. I have a friend with an Oday 323...plastic scupper fittings...nuff said...

My Tartan 37 is for sale BTW...$55,000 for a great boat.

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Re: Want to buy a used 40-50 live aboard Sail

We bought a 1991 Hunter 433 as a liveaboard - never having lived aboard before. We lived on her in a marina for 4 years and then spent a year sailing from Florida to Australia. (even though of course Hunters aren't 'blue water' boats)We found the interior volume and layout pretty good for 2 people and even handled a couple of guests with ease.
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We bought a 1991 Hunter 433 as a liveaboard - never having lived aboard before. We lived on her in a marina for 4 years and then spent a year sailing from Florida to Australia. (even though of course Hunters aren't 'blue water' boats)We found the interior volume and layout pretty good for 2 people and even handled a couple of guests with ease.
How well did the Hunter do with water of other colors or clear water like this?
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Re: Want to buy a used 40-50 live aboard Sail

So we know this...
Size: 40-50 feet
Purpose: Live aboard

What we don't know is this...
Number living aboard: ?
Price range: $???
Dock queen or cruising?
If cruising, where? Draft may be an issue

If you can fill in the question marks, you'll get better suggestions.
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Re: Want to buy a used 40-50 live aboard Sail

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So we know this...
Size: 40-50 feet
Purpose: Live aboard

What we don't know is this...
Number living aboard: ?
Price range: $???
Dock queen or cruising?
If cruising, where? Draft may be an issue

If you can fill in the question marks, you'll get better suggestions.
His other thread says $80,000 just himself in Florida.
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