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Kind of makes you wonder whaty one builder is leaving out.
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Kind of makes you wonder whaty one builder is leaving out.
Bob, you make an EXCELLENT point and I guess that is what I am asking. What does Catalina do that Bene and Jeanneau not do?

There isn't a device on this world that can measure the indifference I have for that statement.
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Re: New Catalina Yachts

Don't forget that Beneteau/Jeanneau each have a large presence in the charter industry, which is somewhat analogous to the profits and extra exposure that certain automakers gain from working with the rental car industry. I assume the charter industry helps the bottom line of Bene/Jeanneau keep costs down too.

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Lets get some constructive information going here...I have not serious interest but I am curious. Melrna just purchased a new 445 I think, she should chime in
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We would have to analyze so many facets of the respective build programs to answer that accurately. I know I don't have sufficient information to provide the quick and easy answer that it seems you are looking for.

You would have to start with each and every component of the build and compare them
and the prices the builders pay for the respective components. And that would just be that start.

I know one thing for certain. Catalina does not pay any design royalties.

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Re: New Catalina Yachts

I can't speak for the nuts and bolts of Catalina vs BeneJeanEuro, but at last year's boat show the C455 showed magnitudes 'yachtier' than the equivalent offerings from Bene and Jeanneau.. nicer joinery (though still miles from, say, a Passport 40), more practical storage solutions, none of the horizontal grain "Ikea-ness" of the others. We liked it best of what was on view at that time. There was an equally nice/maybe nicer Tartan (44?) there too, but you needed to add yet another $100K for that one, made the C455 look like a 'deal'...
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We bought our Catalina five years ago. At the time we looked at 90's vintage production boats from several brands including Beneteau/Jeanneau. I found the Catalinas had held up better on average both in systems and cosmetically.

We've been very happy with our boat and with Catalina as a company. Their customer support for a 1995 boat owner has been nothing short of stellar.

That said I'd bet there are a lot of happy Beneteau/Jeanneau owners out there too.

My guess is by the time you figure out the true sailaway prices fully equipped they won't be as far apart as you think.

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I can't speak for the nuts and bolts of Catalina vs BeneJeanEuro, but at last year's boat show the C455 showed magnitudes 'yachtier' than the equivalent offerings from Bene and Jeanneau.. nicer joinery (though still miles from, say, a Passport 40), more practical storage solutions, none of the horizontal grain "Ikea-ness" of the others. We liked it best of what was on view at that time. There was an equally nice/maybe nicer Tartan (44?) there too, but you needed to add yet another $100K for that one, made the C455 look like a 'deal'...
Damn I'd love a Passport.

But I really like not having a boat payment...

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Lets get some constructive information going here...I have not serious interest but I am curious. Melrna just purchased a new 445 I think, she should chime in
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Could also be that Jeanneau/Beneteau have a much cheaper $$$ way of building interiors, being as they have machines that laser cut the plywood. along with putting on the varnish. Cutting out probably some MAJOR $$$ in labor that catalina has to do all by hand.

THere is a local granted a smaller power boat builder that was bought by a larger one. THe larger one put in some of the computer done milling etc, and saved over 40-50 hrs of labor on 15-20' basic fiberglass fishing boat. Who know what some stuff like this could do to a 30-50' sailboat!

Lead keels IIRC from a comparison, lead is about 7-10 times as expensive as iron is in a comparable wt. at .20 s $1-2 a lb.....lead adds up in cost too! not saying one is better than the other, but costs do add up!

Not saying that catalina is not worth the extra......just stating how it is possible to save some funds.

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