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As stated I just bought a Catalina 445. I had my choice of any boat out there but choose the Catalina for the way it is made. First let me dispel the price point difference. When you get down to what the standard equipment vs options list on all mass production boats Catalina comes out on top within a few dollars. The french boats are stripped down for the most the part, for example a fuel filter system is NOT included. Materials used is head and shoulders above mass production boats and is almost equivalent to Tartan, Pacific Seacraft and other high end builders. The hull is a 5 part construction vs 2 in other production boats. All the sailing hardware is top draw. The windlass is 3 steps above the cheap Lewmar and oversize. Aluminum toe rail vs some cheap small teak toe rail that won't hold anything going overboard. A real galley Bob Perry would be proud of to include a real freezer and a refrigerator that actually holds something other than a case of coke. A real nav station to work on. A real electrical panel. A place to put other electrical toys in the aux panel. Real storage in all the cabins to cruise in. There are no closets shelves in any of the french boats in the master cabin. Real ventilation hatches throughout the boat. The list goes on and on when you peel away the autistic looks and divulge into all the systems of a big boat. I have visit all the factories. Customer service is the best at Catalina. I have everyone's personal cell phone at the factory including Gerry Douglas if the need should arrive. I don't know any other manufacture that does this. The boat is built in the USA. It is why I choose the Catalina.
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As stated I just bought a Catalina 445. I had my choice of any boat out there but choose the Catalina for the way it is made. First let me dispel the price point difference. When you get down to what the standard equipment vs options list on all mass production boats Catalina comes out on top within a few dollars. The french boats are stripped down for the most the part, for example a fuel filter system is NOT included. Materials used is head and shoulders above mass production boats and is almost equivalent to Tartan, Pacific Seacraft and other high end builders. The hull is a 5 part construction vs 2 in other production boats. All the sailing hardware is top draw. The windlass is 3 steps above the cheap Lewmar and oversize. Aluminum toe rail vs some cheap small teak toe rail that won't hold anything going overboard. A real galley Bob Perry would be proud of to include a real freezer and a refrigerator that actually holds something other than a case of coke. A real nav station to work on. A real electrical panel. A place to put other electrical toys in the aux panel. Real storage in all the cabins to cruise in. There are no closets shelves in any of the french boats in the master cabin. Real ventilation hatches throughout the boat. The list goes on and on when you peel away the autistic looks and divulge into all the systems of a big boat. I have visit all the factories. Customer service is the best at Catalina. I have everyone's personal cell phone at the factory including Gerry Douglas if the need should arrive. I don't know any other manufacture that does this. The boat is built in the USA. It is why I choose the Catalina.
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Mel, Catalina should hire you to do their marketing.
They should and I asked. Will help pay for the boat!

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As stated I just bought a Catalina 445. I had my choice of any boat out there but choose the Catalina for the way it is made. First let me dispel the price point difference. When you get down to what the standard equipment vs options list on all mass production boats Catalina comes out on top within a few dollars. The french boats are stripped down for the most the part, for example a fuel filter system is NOT included. Materials used is head and shoulders above mass production boats and is almost equivalent to Tartan, Pacific Seacraft and other high end builders. The hull is a 5 part construction vs 2 in other production boats. All the sailing hardware is top draw. The windlass is 3 steps above the cheap Lewmar and oversize. Aluminum toe rail vs some cheap small teak toe rail that won't hold anything going overboard. A real galley Bob Perry would be proud of to include a real freezer and a refrigerator that actually holds something other than a case of coke. A real nav station to work on. A real electrical panel. A place to put other electrical toys in the aux panel. Real storage in all the cabins to cruise in. There are no closets shelves in any of the french boats in the master cabin. Real ventilation hatches throughout the boat. The list goes on and on when you peel away the autistic looks and divulge into all the systems of a big boat. I have visit all the factories. Customer service is the best at Catalina. I have everyone's personal cell phone at the factory including Gerry Douglas if the need should arrive. I don't know any other manufacture that does this. The boat is built in the USA. It is why I choose the Catalina.
Thank you Melrna! That is exactly the type of detail for which I was enquiring!

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I will second the notion that at the boat show the Catalina just look much better than the Jene or Benetau. Mel can speak to the systems better but the interiors and cockpit just felt like a different level of quality than the french boats. I know if I was looking at a new boat Catalina is the only one of the three I would consider.
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Is it me or does it seem the Catalina 315, 355, and 445 seem to be overpriced?
THANK HEAVENS is all I can say.

I have been screaming about this for years. I have had discussions with Catalina about keeping their quality (or improving) versus cutting corners. Compare the joinery, the rigging, the standard equipment, the winches, etc... and you will find it is not apples:apples. I was almost certain that Catalina was going to follow the route of a couple of other builders and cheapen up their boats. ANd quite candidly, they still don't do things that I would like them to do, but they seem to be holding their quality.

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Mel.. Do I remember correctly that you moved from Hunter to Catalina? Don't want to initiate a Hunter bashing round, but curious about why you didn't stick with them?
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I didn't get a Hunter for the reasons I stated above. Plus I didn't want a B&R rig. Hunter severely drop the quality of their build during the recession.

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There is no comparison. Its like asking why a Hyundai is less than a Buick!
I am not real sure which planet that quote is from, but perhaps you might want to rethink that comparison (and the Hyundai arguably has the better quality rep):
Buick Lacrosse base price $33000

Hyundai Genesis base price $28000


Well she might well make an excellent marketing manager for Catalina... but she just set back Hunter several years!

For the record in quality products, especially luxury items, customers ARE your marketing.

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