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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

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Chef - do you know what the correct response would be on SA?
And the relevance of that Jon. Who really cares what SA says it does change what is correct

Jon just admit it. Topside and topsides mean two different things

. You and your Buddy Boatpoker were eliminated by that question on Who Wants to be A Millionaire. Next time at leat you both know the correct answer and the difference between topside and topsides.

Back to the regular Scheduled topic, cored boats.
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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

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Jon with due respect

Look up again what I said I used the word .....I didnt say topsides.

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I said topside as to go topside the topside of the boat, which is usually the deck of some sort

You and you buddy boatpoker are sing the term TOPSIDES. See the s there .the s changes the meaning. Topsides IS the side of the hull above the waterline. BUT I didn't use that word did I now. I used the word TOPSIDE

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Not all 80 C&C are cored boats. Our 83 MKIII is not except the topside is.
FWIW, not much given how trivial it is, you are using the word as a noun, and as a noun it has only one definition, and that is not the meaning you so tiresomely defend. As an adverb or adjective, maybe but not at all in the context that you use the word.
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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

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You should recognize when you have an empty hand and let something go. But you just cant do that, can you?

FWIW, not much given how trivial it is, you are using the word as a noun, and as a noun it has only one definition, and that is not the meaning you so tiresomely defend. As an adverb or adjective, maybe but not at all in the context that you use the word.
Sailing fool, you are the one with the empty hand using it wrong so no i cant. Give it up.

In the phrase..... I am going topside. What does that mean? If we use term topside there, then we go to the hull above the waterline right? Explain that phrase to me or us. Or are we all using that phrase wrong,

I am going to the part of the hull between the waterline and the deck? Nope that word
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and the dictionary. ( Webster or nautical) is topsides with an s.....a noun.

However I used the word TOPSIDE...no s on purpose.

Is the word topside in that sentence an adverb or adjective? Yes

A direct object as the direct object of the phrase is deck ( implied)..as I am going to the topside deck. We are going to the topside (deck) maybe implied as it was in my original statement where I mentioned our C&C was totally cored topside. Topside in that case is an adjective modifying a direct object. Used appropriately.

It would be incorrect to say I was going topsides as we all know that means the part between the waterline and deck.

This is a prime example while people trying to learn English find it somewhat difficult. Adding the s here doesn't make it plural, it changes the entire meaning.
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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

Why are you two on this idiotic tangent? You both have missed the point of the post. Do you think anybody but the two of you gives a $ hit?
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Why are you two on this idiotic tangent? You both have missed the point of the post. Do you think anybody but the two of you gives a $ hit?
Feel free to read past my comments if they bother you so intensely. I was posting my opinions about the coring of boats until I was corrected incorrectly by the nautical dictionary police.

Again, cored hulls need to be inspected carefully, no doubt. However just because hulls are cored doesn't mean they are inherently more problems. Also as this thread has pointed out different manufacturers process surrounding a cored hull is also paramount.

The comparison of th J boat (4mm) and the C&C (1/2 - 3/4 ").

To check moisture is important in any boat before its purchase.

Also, not every manufacturer of cored boats does every model. The on ly example I am sure about because I am an owner. And belong to the C&C owners group are the C&c's. they are not all cored, the cored boats are not totally cored.
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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

I used to wear Topsiders on my feet.

I resent people intruding into my area of chidish bickering.
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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

You want to avoid anything that looks like this;


This picture was taken in 2009 or 2010, of a 1989 Pearson 34-2 with a balsa-cored hull.

When I put my moisture meter near this spot, or any where between this and the keel, and the meter pegged (>30%). When I tested several other locations, the needle was in the 10% range.

My suspicion is that there was an impact with something (piling/log/rock/etc.) just below the surface, which cracked the outer laminate, and allowed moisture intrusion. Subsequent New England winters, and sub freezing temps, would cause the water to freeze, and... I am sure that you get the idea...
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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

Hmmmm, I have a 1974 cored boat, a beautiful tartan 41. Prettiest boat around me. Check the blog link for pics.

Seems you roll your dice, if you get double sixes, you are screwed with delamination.
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Re: Would you buy an early 80's cored hull boat?

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You want to avoid anything that looks like this;
This is what I was looking for, thank you. I knew that the Tartan had been hard aground at least once and the care it was given by it's original owner was questionalble. Had the Pearson been on the hard for a while when the moisture readings were done? Since I'm not much of a gambler I would like to have as information as possible before rolling the dice.
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The Pearson was viewed in late April of 2010. It had been out of the water since the previous season.

Spend the $150 on a moisture meter, and save yourself a headache.
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