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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

Every single foot makes a huge difference from 22-28' and cost doesn't go up significantly. At 23' it's hard to find an enclosed head and headroom is going to be pretty bad. By 26' almost every boat will have an enclosed head and plenty have 6' headroom or close to it, and many have quarter berths (good for storage at least). By 28' you'll have standing headroom and quarter berths or aft cabins in most boats.

Between 22' and 26' cost barely goes up at all. Good pearson 26's go for <$5k for example. I'd at least extend your search up to ~26'.
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I certainly won't rule out any boat that I can afford, the bigger the better! As long as I can keep it somewhere to work on it and get it into lake michigan at the beginning of the season next year, I will consider any and all sailboats. 23 is just the absolute minimum. Anyone ever live aboard one of the older MacGregor/Venture 25 footers? No hanging locker from what I can tell, but it seems to fit pretty much every other requirement and I'm trippin over ads for them it seems like.
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Everyone probably thinks this boat is uuuuugggglllyyyy, but Its right up my alley. I can't seem to find much out there about these reinell sailboats though. Anyone have any insights?
Clean Dry 26' sailboat w/trailer & slip @ Pioneer Marina
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No, she looks like a sweet boat, it's fiberglass right?


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REINELL 26 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com


Reinell Boat Works
1928-1980

First founded as Adams & Reinell, Inc., in Marysville, Washington, USA.
The company specialized in lapstrake and carvel-planked boats in the 10- to 18-foot range, but they advertised their ability to design and build pleasure cruisers or yachts up to 110 feet in their spacious plant.
In the early 1930’s C.B. Adams dropped out and the company became known as Reinell Boat Works. The plant was expanded several times and new models were added to the line, making Reinell a well known and successful west coast US builder of outboard runabouts, at least into the 1960's, when fiberglass contruction was introduced.
After an initial resistance to the new technology, the company began building small fiberglass runabouts in 1957, which were not well received.
Reinell entered into a short lived venture of building sailboats when they purchased some molds from the recently defunct American Mariner Industries.
After a number of changes in ownership and management, the company closed it's doors in 1980. Most of companies assetts were purchased by Beechcraft Marine, which in turn went under a few years later.
See American Mariner Industries.


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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

I want a rocketship and I want one with Faster Than Light engines and I've worked out a budget, I can afford ten grand for it.

Doesn't mean I'm going to find one, does it? Not in working order.
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I want a rocketship and I want one with Faster Than Light engines and I've worked out a budget, I can afford ten grand for it.

Doesn't mean I'm going to find one, does it? Not in working order.
Why so sore?
There's plenty of boats in my price range that fit my criteria. I didn't say I wanted a giant yacht with 5 berths. I'm just looking for a bed, a toilet, and a hanging locker. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

There's a Pearson 10m near you on eBay for wicked cheap. Not trailerable , but would give you much more room for severe bargain price.

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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

Not sore at all, just somewhat amused by the idea of a 23-foot boat with a head and hanging locker. A head of some kind probably puts you into 26 feet, but if you want a hanging locker big enough to hold one week's worth of business suits (or jackets and pants) you'll have to upsize again. Although for three grand you might find that boat, I'd be surprised if it was dry enough to keep those clothes free of mildew. And if you're wintering in Chicago, you'll also need heat. More space and money.

On the three grand budget, and "cheap boats" have been discussed quite often here and elsewhere, you'll be probably buying a boat with an outboard engine, in need of deck repairs, with blown out sails or other problems. it may not be impossible, but a warm dry boat that allows you to live aboard, and still can be sailed or function as a BOAT, is going to be a hard find for three grand.

I know there are "apartments" in Tokyo that are smaller than a 26' boat, but they don't have hanging lockers either, and the head is down the hall, communal style. You will doubtless think it is a waste of good money, but hire a surveyor before you buy the boat, so you have some expectation of how much more it will cost to fix the inevitable problems in a $3000 boat.
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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

Hello.
We summer aboard a 23' boat with a hanging locker and full headroom.



if we had the option, we might consider wintering aboard her as well, but it admittedly gets tight wiht two people and two dogs.

So... what's your point? You apparently missed the post a page back where several examples suiting the OPs needs were suggested, all of which you apparently didn't realize existed, then you give the OP a reality check that he can't find what he wants for what he wants?


A good point is brought up, however- measuring the suitability of a boat by LOA is a bit of a fool's errand. Displacement might be a better measure. A Flicka, for example is more comfortable and livable than a tanzer 22, although the tanzer is longer, and a dana 24 is a much more luxurious boat than a Mac 26.

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