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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

So, I'm having a debate in my mind as to whether I should look for an inboard or outboard motor, but I'm leaning towards outboard because I feel like it would allow for more living space on the inside of the vessel. Am I overlooking some distinct advantage of having an inboard motor?

Also, plans have been pushed to summer 2015 and budget has been increased to $4500 if anyone cares.

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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

In that size and price range, you are way more likely to get a boat with an outboard engine with boat the boat and engine in better condition. And it should be good enough--for a boat that was designed to be used with an outboard, assuming it is a proper long shaft outboard designed for the boat, and for hopping up and down the shore or taking longer trips in reasonably good weather.
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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

Inboard does take up slightly more space down below. The reality is that it is often space that is difficult to utilize, difficult to access, open to the bilge.
An inboard allows for improved 12 volt charging, no cavitation and in some cases much lower fuel consumption. The single cylinder yanmar diesel on our Georgian 23 burns 1 litre of fuel per hour at hull speed.
Turbo, you are correct, it is hard to find a decent small boat with an inboard and standing headroom and decent storage for under $4500..... I know of one for sale, though...
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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

The only thing I can say is that when it's rough, those little egg beaters come out of the water and that can rattle you. An inboard stays in the water and that diesel sound is reassuring.

On the trailer issue - if that's important and you don't have a one ton truck, then you are going outboard. My Catalina 22 weighs around 2500 lbs. You can tow it with a big car or small SUV
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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

Bljones, I hadn't considered the 12v charging situation! Thanks for pointing that out. I need some kind of complicated solution to charge batteries with an outboard at all, don't I? I don't plan on being away from the slip for more than 5-7 days tops, but would charging with shore power keep the batteries up for more than a day or two? I do love my gadgets, so power is important to me. I'm sure there are solar solutions, but I'd rather be able to start a motor and be sure the batteries were getting consistent juice.

Also, where can I find info about this boat you speak of? Do you have a for sale thread or CL ad somewhere?
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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

Its always hard to predict what boats will be available when any one person is looking ain any specific area of the world. If I were in your shoes, (looking for a $3,000 boat, in Illinois, to live on and weekend cruise), I would put together a list of boats which were a good mix of spaciousness and sailing ability. I would not worry as much about being trailerable or whether it had an outboard. My list would include boats like the Morgan 24/25, C&C 24 or 25, Cal 25, C&C Redline 25, Viking 25, Dolphin 24, Beneteau 25 SK, Pearson Lark 24, Paceship (AKA PSY or AMC) 23 or 26, and maybe a Grampian 26, Whitby 25 (AKA Continental 25/ Walton 25) or Lindenberg 26.

Any of these in decent shape and in your price range would be good boats for your purpose.

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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

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In my experience; allow one-third of your budget for thepurchase, another for refit/repairs and the last for first season expenses.
I used a Venn diagram of sorts to winnow the list to manageable, then went on to find boats that fit within those parameters and budget. Patience will pay off . Buying the biggest you think you'll need (for a while ) and can handle (at first) might avoid a case of "foot-itis:
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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

A Watkins 27' would make a nice little liveaboard. It's beamy and comfy and might be in your budget depending on condition. A little big for trailering though. I'll second the nomination for the Catalina 27' also.

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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

There are trailerable boats and then there are liveaboard boats. There aren't many trailerable liveaboard boats.
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Re: Small affordable sailboats with ample storage? (planning to live aboard)

Sal, it doesn't HAVE to be both trailerable and liveaboard-able. I'm fairly confident that I can find a boat either already in lake MI or close enough that shipping costs would be reasonable.

And Deltaten, the numbers I've posted here are strictly my budget to purchase and potentially ship a boat. I have an entirely separate budget allocated for repairs and maintenance, as well as a budget for a slip.
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