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Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

I know the TaShing Panda 40 and the Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40 are very different, but I am having a very hard time deciding between them for our first sailboat. The TaShing is an '82; the Jeanneau 20 years younger, a 2002. TaShing is $30,000 more -- not trivial! Both are in good shape, updated on the important things. I've been on Jeanneaus, but not Ta Shings, and both these boats are some distance from my home, not easy to see (though I'll arrange a trip.)
It's mostly for 2-4 person day sailing in SF Bay, and short - medium distance coastal cruising. Jeanneau is newer, less expensive, and seems suited to the task. TaShing is BEAUTIFUL, but heavy, lots of wood to maintain (and admire), and the berths seem very tight.
Help! Anyone familiar with TaShings?
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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

You summed it up pretty well. The Jeanneau is going to be spacious and better for entertaining. It will sail better in light wind. There will be a lot less bright work to maintain.
The Baba is heavily constructed and finely built boat that is better suited for a couple with occasional guest. To keep the bright work maintained (while cursing in the tropics anyway) is a lot of work. Baba's are comfortable in weather when a lot of other boats feel that it's getting 'rough out.'
For short handed blue water cruising I would go with the Baba. For sailing with a crew of 4 or more I would go with the Jeanneau.
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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

I have two fantasies, help me choose ... Jennifer Lopez or Barbara Bush ?
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Funny.... Not sure Bob Perry will think so...
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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

Oh, no, who's Jennifer and who's Babs?
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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

Not sure TaShing has a good rhyme to hook folks with when they ask what kind of boat you have? Jeanneau's on the other hand, one can have a hell of a good time with em! Besides, generally speaking, they are quicker, its good to have a fast boat!

Oh, I am biased I must say, But so I did not say I did not warn you, there are some One-Eyed Jeanneau fans, I would be VERY careful of them! That is my story, and I am sticken to it!. Oh, and be VERY careful of the poster with Mr Winston in his avatar!

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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

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Oh, no, who's Jennifer and who's Babs?
Too easy. The Baba is a beautiful but high maintenance (inappropriate language removed) . As everyone knows, for every drop dead gorgeous babe, there's a guy who's "sick of her $hit". Still, I'd take the Baba.

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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

The Jeanneau is better suited for your stated intentions, should you decide you are going to Hawaii, take the Baba.
I'm thinking even Mr. Perry may agree with this.
FWIW TaShing shipyards in Taiwan used to build sailboats, many (most?) with encapsulated keels. Then they started building Nordhavn motor vessels.
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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

If the Baba has teak decks AND they are original they may/will need replacing soon. As they are screwed down IF the screws penetrated the cored deck then a soggy core is usual. $$$

The Baba usually came with water and fuel tanks that were a form of steel and again will be at the end of their life if original. Again $$$ and mucho disruption.

If the decks and tanks have been done then it starts to get to be less of a money pit. If that interior talks to you and you can put up with the Jeanneaus sailing rings around you in light airs then go with it.

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Re: Two too extremes! TaShing v Jeanneau

There is certrainly no comparison in build quality and ruggedness. The Baba is the better built boat and will hold its value much better. If you will sail it on the Bay you will enjoy its power and speed in a breeze. I can assure you the performance will surprise you. But they don't back up very well and you will take my name in vain the first few times.

You are taking on a lot of maintainence with the Baba. Some have more teak than others but they all have plenty of teak.

Ta Shing means "Big Star" in Mandarin.
"Baba" is the Taiwanese knickname for Bob Berg. The guy who started the project. Baba means "father" in Mandarin.
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