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Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

Im sure you can tell from the title that this is going to be a disaster but humor me for a quick minute

I just moved to Orlando from Minneapolis and realized that for the first time living on a boat year round is a viable option.

Factors:
1. I hate the concept of renting, 100% wasted money. At least with a sailboat I can recoup 50% or more of my investment.
2. I have always wanted a sailboat and am willing to make sacrifices for the dream.

What Im thinking so far:
1. Buy a small sailboat around 25' for hopefully about 3,000 based on what Ive seen on craigslist.
2. I have a lake picked out and a business owner who said I can rent their unused dock for $100/month. I can run a power line out, water and wifi booster.
3. Im going to get a gym membership for showers.
4. There is a marina across the lake that can tow my boat after purchase. I met their mechanic who said he could survey a boat for me for a good price on his own time. The marina can do the waste pumping or whatever.
5. Im super handy so Im not too worried about getting and older boat. I know a little bit about wiring plumbing refinishing etc and have flipped houses.
6. I just got a decent part time job with a software developer so I can afford to fix it up as I go and upgrade to something bigger and better in a few months.

So Advice:
What kind of sacrifices do you have to make on a boat this cheap?
I thought about it and it seems like a lot of stuff could be broken and I could still use it. IE stove: get electric counter top one, toilet: composter portapotty, engine: no problem im just taking it out on the lake a bit, electricity: I can fix myself

Where should I buy it? Private seller or used boat yard?

Is limited head room on small boat going to suck? im 6'

I have friends nearby so its pretty much just for sleeping. I can probably talk the business owner into letting me instal a small shed for bigger things.


Okay, shoot holes in my plan
Thanks for help in advance. Obviously I just found this site online.
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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

Headroom will not be good. Live with it. Maybe an Ericson 25+.
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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

I live on an islander Bahama 24 head rooms not great. do you sail or is this just to motor around and sleep on as a " dock queen" if the latter you will be happier with an older cabin cruiser ( better headroom )

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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

This is obviously just a place to rest your head at night. Why are you searching for a sailboat?

There are a variety of derelict powerboats that would probably offer more cabin space.
Sure, go for it. Your plan is brilliant.

FFS, I thought this was "Sailnet" not "Help-drifters-beat-the-cost-of-rent-net".
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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

I use to hang on the one of the Rolex forums where people ask crazy questions about "can I wear my Rolex doing this or that". I see on this forum "it's cheap liveaboards"

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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

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This is obviously just a place to rest your head at night.

FFS, I thought this was "Sailnet" not "Help-drifters-beat-the-cost-of-rent-net".
Seems to be several posts lately that mirror the beat the cost of living responsibly on a boat.

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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

I doubt that a composting toilet will fit on the size boat you're talking about.
That being the case, where can you (legally) empty your porta-potty?

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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

My wife and I lived aboard an O'day 22 for a few months.

People do it every day it's called camping.

My son and girl friend lived aboard a Pearson Commander for a year in Annapolis including one winter. He decided not to do the second winter though.

You can manage anything for a while.

I like that you are getting all your ducks in a row.
Have a dock not a mooring.
Are going to pay for what you consume, dock, water, power, showers.

Good for you.

One thing my son complained about was being wet all the time.
It is really hard to control the moisture.
You open the hatch when it is raining and everything gets a little damp.

You will probably get sick of it after a while but in the mean time you will have a good story.

It is not likely to be sailing however.
Having the boat ready to sail whenever the weather is nice and knowing how is another whole subject.
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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

if you are getting a tow to the dock you will be staying on getting back to the marina for pump out might be a problem

if you dont know much about boats getting that mechanic to do a quick once over at least is probably a good idea. but Like Bob said in that range a full Survey is overkill.

6" is pushing it for headroom in most boats that size but really you have a floating living/sleeping area you dont stand up unless cooking(my #1 need was standing space in the Galley) you spend your time on deck or not there or sailing so headroom is not as much of a thought as it would be somewhere you spend more time moving around in.

Do it go for it have a blast and if it sucks you didnt put too much into it right?

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Re: Newbie buying a dirt cheap liveaboard...

I would think the biggest issue will be the oppressive summer heat WITHOUT AC

Even up here in much more moderate NY going below on many summer days is instant sweat time

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