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Welcome to SN, PONTY.

Damn where the hell did find this thread? It is old.

I don't believe you can singlehanded to sail a 49 Hallberg Rassy . Let me join you in Trinidad this December. I need to see this in person


Now....... i will tell u quickly: i own my PONTY since 6 years . Went around Italy in the Tyrrenian see, in Greece around Peloponnesus with family and friends, summer and winter. Started some little trip alone Rome to Giglio island or Ponza. Just docking in the river Tevere , alongside another boat alone with 2 kn current , day and night is quite a good school !!!

2 years of preparation for the Atlantic. 40% adjusting rig and adding items on the boat ( she is an HR 49 1 mast ; previus name Giglio III ); 30% studing general experiences about all matters involved ( a lot of books from boat rigging to world routes or "Sydney Hobard's story > Tempesta " includin 2 books about singlehand sailing); 30 % specific planning of trip, from maps, Giblaltair courrents timing, document needs, simulation on PC with pilots charts etc .

Lefty Italy during a week off from my job and with a profy friend and in 4 days reached sail and engine Moreira marina in Spain non stop. Broken inversor clutch , arrive with force 8 near marina, tied with a dingy inside the arbour, boat quickly ashore and 20 days to repear the damnage. This has been the most risky episode because the rubber cup around engine shaft went broken and spilling water in.

Real trip started on 20 november with 3 more people and going slowly alongside the spanish coast till Gibraltair. Then 2 left and wit 1 friend in 5 days arrived at night in ISLA Graciosa ( Canary) . This is been the most strong time about wind and wawes of all route. Experienced new windvane ( red Hydrovane with an old stile double poled front sails: 2nd boat of this size using such a small wv) with a big satisfaction also downwind with the ship surfing a little.

Then my friend left from Gran Canaria and...
if u like ill continue next time.....

federico

PS: forget to tell u I am 58 and been a professional rider with 3 Olimpics in my career still riding all the time I am home ( That helps a lot !!! ),.

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Island Packets certainly good sail across the Atlantic and so have many Beneteaus. We have a friend who is an experienced mini-Transat sailor from NZ and he chose a Beneteau Oceanis to go cruising with his wife and two very young daughters.On the other hand, most of the Beneteaus you see at the boat show are not all suited for offshore passages since they lack sea berths, proper tankage, and the rigs seem marginal - but great for coastal cruising and hanging out at the marina. Cost comes into the equation and cannot be avoided. I think you need to do a lot more research before you can even start to talk about particular brands of boats. Let your father choose the boat that meets his needs and you can worry about crossing oceans later. BTW, a boat that would be fine for a typical Atlantic crossing might well not be up to the Drake Passage - note that it is not just transitting the Passage but getting there and back safely.

For the person wanting to cross the Atlantic in a smaller boat. There is nothing to be gained by going too small. Find a solid, small boat and go for it. boats that come to mind are Vega 27, Contessa 26, even an Alberg 22. These will not cost too much, and will be fairly safe if not very comfy or fast.
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Then my friend left from Gran Canaria and...
if u like ill continue next time.....

federico
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Sure, we are always interested in hearing a good story.

Even if I never solo sailed anything bigger than 43ft I don't think it is difficult to solo sail a 50ft boat if it is rigged the right way. You have to know what you are doing and to know very well your boat, but a bigger boat provides a much more stable working platform than, for instance a 30ft boat, and that helps a lot. The Halberg Rassy, with its moderated rig and considerable displacement seems a good boat to solo sail.

The problem with solo sailed big boat is the maneuvering in the Marina. Getting in and out alone is many times impossible. I have given up to have something bigger than 40ft because I could not single handed in and out of a regular med marina without help, specially with any considerable wind, not to mention the bigger maintenance and marina costs.

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... reached sail and engine Moreira marina in Spain non stop. Broken inversor clutch , arrive with force 8 near marina, tied with a dingy inside the arbour, boat quickly ashore and 20 days to repear the damnage. This has been the most risky episode because the rubber cup around engine shaft went broken and spilling water in.
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Lefty Italy during a week off from my job and with a profy friend and in 4 days reached sail and engine Moreira marina in Spain non stop. Broken inversor clutch , arrive with force 8 near marina, tied with a dingy inside the arbour, boat quickly ashore and 20 days to repear the damnage. This has been the most risky episode because the rubber cup around engine shaft went broken and spilling water in.
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you might glean some guidance from reading about how boats held up in adverse conditions?

Amazon.com: Rescue in the Pacific: A True Story of Disaster and Survival in a Force 12 Storm (9780070486195): Tony Farrington: Books

Amazon.com: Fastnet, Force 10: The Deadliest Storm in the History of Modern Sailing, New Edition (9780393308655): John Rousmaniere: Books

Amazon.com: A Voyage for Madmen (9780732275921): Peter Nichols: Books

and while older, the perennial classic:

Amazon.com: Sailing Alone Around the World (Great Classic Series) (9788132030690): Captain Joshua Slocum: Books

all exceptional reads.
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STUFFING BOX RISK ON PONTY

to people who asked more details ( srry my tecnical words may sound quite inprecise):

1) During the trip Rome-Bocche di Bonifacio-South of Baleares-Costa Blanca 1 and then 2 silent bloks of auxiliar engine went broken probably because the heavy see and some age. We 2 were going sail and engine because the little time.
2) i felt like a slightly different sound but confident on my companion experience (he was a griek profi skipper and after a check He said all was normal ) I keept going.
3) in realty the alignament of engine with the propeller shaft went wrong just a little that u could not noticede at all..
4) on morning of 4th day wind stopped and 40 miles from the spanish coast, when i engaged the throttle i thaught like we had lost the propeller: no movement at all. In realty thr inversor mechanism between engine and propeller did broke and inspecting the engine room i found all black oil spillt and splashed around by shaft rotation and some golden powder coming from the wear of bronze bush (bearing ?). Some water was spilling from back stuffing box, in moderate amount
5) we decided to change plan and reach the closest marina possible that was DENIA, but after a swift of wind raising to force 8 we had to make sail for Marina Moreira.
6) with some fatigue, not to drift too mutch south, we reached Moreira's bay where , just around the cape we found no waves and no wind.
7) A local dingy tied us unside and I fixed with 2 metal clamps and some marine sealant the STUFFING BOX that was spilling more then before.
8) On the morning after a quick check , the local very good mechanic decided to put the boat ashore because a quite risky situation.
9) Luckily we were in a small marina with a good and bossy mechanic and in little time the 20 tons boat was outside water. When i removed the provisional sealing I found that the rubber stuffing cap ( original volvo) was in part like a rigid bachelite piece because the propeller shaft did workd for some time in a not correct direction and it could be possible to have a quite bigger damnage. >>> a broken cup will say a lot of water coming in from the propeller shaft hole.

SO: a) check silent block regulary and change them more often that it seems necessary !! It is expensive but mutch less then changing the gear-box that has been a 0 cost compared with a sunken boat.
b) on the boat You know quite well do not follow all the suggestions or ideas of more experienced people without a proper analisis .

good wind

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