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Old 08-08-2005
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In my endless cyber-hull kicking sessions, I came accross a couple of F&C 44 Ketches on Yachtworld. I am a big fan of almost all of German Frers designs, and these looked especially appealing. I am trying to schedule a time to view the two in the NE.

In the mean time, does anyone have anything positive of negative to say about these designs? They don''t seem to be drawn to any particular racing rule, just swift capable offshore cruisers. I''m not a big fan of the keel-c/b design, but it may be an acceptable compromise of shoal draft and ocean sailing ability.

I am not familiar with the builder. Any comments about the build quality of these boats? I will of course crawl all over, around and through them, so that will be a head start.

My intent is to find a boat in the low to mid 40'' range, displacing in the mid 20tn range. The idea of the split sailplan appeals to me for the smaller sails, yet I know that the ketch is a more difficult design to balance.

I liked the layout, and the specs seemed in line, along with the reknown of the designer. The price point also falls in with my $150k - $200k target.

I''m in no hurry to make up my mind. I am very happy with my current sloop. It''s just my first mate is pining for something a little more than Silmaril''s "Camping with sails" approach.

Looks like this board will be up for a while longer, so I''d enjoy any discussions on this design.
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Oops, in my previous post I meant to say "displacing in the mid 20k range", not 20tn (40k)
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dear "senior member",
you asked for information about the wonderfull ketch.
I am owner of one example since 1990.
After a total refit over the years I know nearly any screw
and would like to answer you what ever your interested in.
About 60 of this type were build between 1979 and the late 1980's.
The shipyard in Buenos Aires was owned by the Frers Brothers.
The target was to build really ocean cruiser in highest quality.
Please let me know your questions.
kind regards
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I am also looking for information on these boats. You can email me directly at renovate it 85 @ hot mail . com (eliminate all the spaces).
I would appreciate any and all information regarding these boats.

Thank you,
Lee
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I am also interested in this ketch , please let me know what you have heard or learnt about this boat;i've seen a few and noted 2 issues
1.in some of the older hard driven boats there is chain plate fiber glass distortion visible externaly , which may suggest lay up issues.
2. The stern platform is crucial to the ketch mast and the integrity of the
stern installation must be thouroghly inspected , that construction does add a layer of extra maintenance
3.Is there some reduced visibility due to the whhel ketch mast placment underway?
Neil Z
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