JENNEAU 42ds,vs Catalina 42,vs Benneteu423,vsBavaria42 - Page 2 - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 41 Old 02-22-2006 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 22
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
I looked at dufour,benneteau,catalina,hunter at the miami boat show. I think the Jenneau 42DS has them beat! Wanted to see Elan but no boat there to see. I dont even see a west coat dealer! So I guess service would be a problem. The people at Jenneau America were very nice even though this does not seem to be the opinion of most here

Last edited by MDRSAILMAN; 02-22-2006 at 10:04 PM.
MDRSAILMAN is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 41 Old 02-22-2006
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,588
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 16
 
H2Oski,

"...they charge extra for things like the spring cleats, etc... (stuff you would normally have standard on other boats)..." If by spring cleat, you mean a cleat located amidships for securing spring lines, don't knock any builder for that ommission, my CS 36T is the only boat I've ever seen that has a factory-installed spring cleat, fabricated with a bale to prevent sheet fouling. Some other builder may have gotten to this sophistication, but not that I've noticed - who do you have in mind?

MDRSAILSMAN - Cat may be more common, but I'd also bet it'll be easier for re-sell based on buyer recognition. as to the Bene and Jennie, be sure they don't try to foist any steel keels onto you, they'll be a maintenance nightmare in no time. My advice is bend your rules a bit and for the same money, consider models a few years old, or a few feet shorter of better quality boats like Tartan, JBoat and Sabre You'll find a much more attractive product for your money.
sailingfool is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #13 of 41 Old 02-23-2006 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 22
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
H20

Thanks for the info. I need to buy new for financial reasons but thanks for the suggestion.
MDRSAILMAN is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #14 of 41 Old 02-23-2006
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,588
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 16
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDRSAILMAN
H20

Thanks for the info. I need to buy new for financial reasons but thanks for the suggestion.
MDRSailsman,

I guess you might take a look and see if you'd get "more" boat for your money with a Tartan 3700 or a Sabre 386 than you would with a Jenneau 42 ....There's a lot "more" to a boat than a couple of extra feet of at each end. Hey, those extra feet really arn't a very useable part of a boat anyway...

If you haven't I'd suggest you at least take a look, so you appreciate the differences...Buying a new boat is a wonderful opportunity, and I hope you don't limit your choices by a big is better perspective...This as close as I'll get to being the first owner of a boat...

Good luck.
sailingfool is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #15 of 41 Old 02-23-2006 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 22
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
H20

tell my wife a few inches does not matter
MDRSAILMAN is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #16 of 41 Old 02-24-2006
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
What about Hunter?

Hi all,

I am in a similar situation - keep looking at the pro's and con's of the 'big name' boats that are in the affordable league. The Hunters (41/44) keep attracting our attention, so am wondering why this manufacturer seems to have been discounted. I am all ears in wanting to learn of others perspectives regarding a nice blue-water boat (definitely needs to be able to do some serious sailing - not just a 'coastal hopper'.

Regards,

David
David B is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #17 of 41 Old 02-24-2006
Wandering Aimlessly
 
PBzeer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cruising
Posts: 21,206
Thanks: 0
Thanked 94 Times in 91 Posts
Rep Power: 15
     
Most builders target a specific audience for their product. It seems, in my view at least, that the big name, high volume builders are more geared to the casual sailor, who spends more time at rest, than in motion. Particularly in a marina. Hence, their emphasis is on creature comforts, most of which require electricity.

Then you have boats such as Valiant and Pacific Seacraft, for example, that are targeted to bluewater passagemaking. The main thing is to determine what you are going to do, and buy a boat that will accomplish that. And that may just be the hardest part of buying a boat. Realistic expectations of use.

Also, don't forget....you are the one that has to live with your choice, not those who give opinions. By all means seek others opinion's, it can be a valuable help in deciding, but choose YOUR boat, not theirs.

John
PBzeer is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #18 of 41 Old 02-24-2006 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 22
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
In response to Hunter question I can only tell you what I see! At my marina there are 16 Hunters for sale. They have been for sale for a long time! Two of my friends own Hunters and the decision was made to buy them from the wife who liked the comforts. My concern is that the Hunter is not a good resale. I have sailed on them and was not impressed. That does not mean it will not work for you. Many Many Hunters are sold so they do attract a folllowing. You owe it to yourself to look on yachtword and see the high number of these boats for sale. But if the wife says Hunter or nothing its better than no boat at all. I agree with the above posting. Decide how you will use the boat!

Last edited by MDRSAILMAN; 02-24-2006 at 10:25 AM.
MDRSAILMAN is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #19 of 41 Old 02-24-2006 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 22
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
PBZEER good advice
MDRSAILMAN is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #20 of 41 Old 02-25-2006
RCR
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Orlando
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by David B
Hi all,

I am in a similar situation - keep looking at the pro's and con's of the 'big name' boats that are in the affordable league. The Hunters (41/44) keep attracting our attention, so am wondering why this manufacturer seems to have been discounted. I am all ears in wanting to learn of others perspectives regarding a nice blue-water boat (definitely needs to be able to do some serious sailing - not just a 'coastal hopper'.

Regards,

David

My father and I are looking at the same boats as the original poster, but also including Hunter and Delphia. However, Hunter dropped from our list after the Miami boat show. Their build quality is seriously lacking with regard to hatches and other external items. When tried to open a hatch on the swim platform and it would barely open because of scraping against the swim ladder. When we tried to open a hatch in the cockpit, even the saleswoman couldn't open it because of scraping against the next hatch. We also noticed the engine room cover (stairs) are not even latched down and were a pain to get back into the groove. We are not looking at Hunters anymore.
RCR is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MacGregor 22 vs. Catalina 22 lastmate Boat Review and Purchase Forum 22 11-13-2012 04:12 PM
Catalina 270? jbarros Boat Review and Purchase Forum 11 07-27-2008 03:41 PM
Catalina 38 owners sailnaway General Discussion (sailing related) 5 02-05-2005 07:36 PM
Option: Catalina 36 and 38 gknopp Boat Review and Purchase Forum 78 05-19-2003 12:08 PM
Catalina 310 greatwhiteway Boat Review and Purchase Forum 10 07-02-2002 06:42 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome