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Re: CS36 Merlin Model Comparison

Ok, price settled with owner. A few minor changes to the contract and we'll probably sign over the weekend.

I'm trying hard to stay calm but failing miserably. Considering getting a t-shirt that says "My Mast is Pumping", just because the phrase amuses me. Looking forward to the sea trial to see what kind of tacking angle she can manage.

My history with charter boats has not given me a great deal of expectation wrt to upwind performance. Hopefully, my own boat will be better.
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Re: CS36 Merlin Model Comparison

David,

BEFORE you put said baby stay on your boat, come out for a sail with me, you will NOT want a BS afterwards, excepting if you only use a 110 or smaller, or a really light cloth like my drifter. Otherwise, YOU NEED a person forward to move a genoa larger than 130 or so around the baby stay while tacking, or it can and will get caught, and one will need to go forward to un catch the genoa.

I have thought of a removable BS for my boat, but two boats like mine have lost masts locally. Not sure if it is due to a lighter mast sizing, or some due to some wood under the mast base that starts to rot. OR a combo there of. An adjustable stay would be nice to give the mast a bit more bend. BUT< I can adjust my mast enough with the back stay.

MBee, Yes David is teh person I mentioned as did Faster earlier in the thread that has a Merlin. A good guy, despite moving his boat closer to the shore vs being across from me......not sure if his beer supply gets emptied as much any more.....but that is another story.

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Re: CS36 Merlin Model Comparison

Marty:

The boat came with a babystay.. It's just connected to the deck with a turnbuckle.. I remove it when i have a big genoa up or am flying the chute.. The reasons I described above are why I want to be able to disconnect it easily.

Sorry that my beer supply is less convenient to you and your crew. Just stop by, though, and beverages will be provided.
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David,

I did not realize you had a baby stay. So yes, a removable adjusting one would be nice to have. I've seen that done on another boat like mine. pretty slick actually. I recall a 4-1 being used. Then again, my mast is just a bit smaller than yours!

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Re: CS36 Merlin Model Comparison

The fracturing under the dinette/settee could have been caused by filling the starboard water tank too fast as the vent is a little small but not necessarily.
The same fractures can also be indicative of liner movement. if the fractures are confined to that area you may be all right. but you have to check a little further.

If you see the fractures at the settee, you then look for hairline fractures in the liner around the mast step, If you see fractures at the mast step you must next look for any sign of movement (downward) of the transverse frame member immediately aft of the mast then look along the bottom of the starboard saloon bulkhead for any sign of movement. If you see all four signs, you have liner movement.

I have attached a photo of very typical fractures at the dinette. If there are no fractures here then you have nothing to be concerned about.

Some of these boats have had shifting liners for years without any related failures, it's still a pretty strong boat but it's best if you are aware.

Also look at the trailing upper edge of the keel (lead) for filler or what looks sort of like like corrosion. There were some issues with poor lead alloy from Mars (the keel mfg.)
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Re: CS36 Merlin Model Comparison

Thanks, BoatPoker...

Let me take some pictures... I'll post them.
I don't think I have the issues you described, but would be grateful for your input.

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Re: CS36 Merlin Model Comparison

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There is a crack on the starboard settee, which was apparently from the water tank being filled up to quickly. There also appears to be some settling of the liner, which is common for the boat.

Personally, I haven't done much other than add a Max Prop
Ah HA! I too have a crack in the starboard settee. Prev. Owner said it was from a rather heavy crew member that got tossed in rough weather. Always thought that seemed odd. I suspect your reasoning is much more accurate!
And I too looked around for other hairline fractures; none to be found.

And I too plan to change over to a Max Prop this season. What size did you get; 17x14?


My boat also came w/ a baby stay; detachable and rigged w/ a 4:1 line.

My mainsheet had what I suspect was the original 4:1 setup; I've seen upgraded to a 6:1. Much easier on the back! And I'm considering putting a fine tune on that! Kept the original setup/sheet for backup as well as clipping on to the boom and using it as a hoist.
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Does she have a windlass? Be curious to see the installation if so.
Photo of the windlass taken during the boat tour attached.

Contract changes have been approved by owner. We'll be signing tonight.... aided by a few very dry martinis.
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Photo of the windlass taken during the boat tour attached.

Contract changes have been approved by owner. We'll be signing tonight.... aided by a few very dry martinis.
Thank you for the picture.. Does the windlass protrude above the anchor hatch when it is closed?

And congratulations!
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And I too plan to change over to a Max Prop this season. What size did you get; 17x14?

My mainsheet had what I suspect was the original 4:1 setup; I've seen upgraded to a 6:1. Much easier on the back! And I'm considering putting a fine tune on that! Kept the original setup/sheet for backup as well as clipping on to the boom and using it as a hoist.
I will validate my Max Prop size and settings for you. You have the original Volvo 2003 engine, right?

My mainsheet is 6:1
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