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Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse

How about any of these:

Fischer 34/37
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Pacific Seacraft 40PH

What's your budget?

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Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse

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Many of the other contenders like the brewer look great, but fall down with the prospect of where to put the kids. A V-berth and a double berth would be adequate, but the brewer doesn't have a traditional V berth but rather an angled double. I doubt two boys would want to actually share a bed for several years. I also don't want to be turning a berth in the salon into a bed and back on a daily basis for years, so pilot berths and the like aren't much help either. Another option would be a v-berth and 2 quarter-berths.

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The Brewer has a V berth AND a second double berth. Also a pilot-ish berth opposit the mid-cabin.

I really liked the Nauticat 39 when I was looking, but they are well out of your range.

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Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse

Like looking for a needle in a haystack, eh? Hard to find the right combination at the right price in a pilothouse. With an unlimited budget, no problem (Amazon, Waterline, Nauticat, Cabo Rico, etc). Trying to find something for $100K is tough, especially if you want it "now". The Sceptre's are very nice and well built and the one I was on had adequate visibility from the pilothouse and had a full helm (not just a joystick), they came with different floor plans (the raised dinette would be a requirement for me - visibility). They hold their value though and I don't think you'll find one in your price range (they also have a very straight shear line, I like curves :-)). Same with the Nauticat 39, beautiful boat that fits all of your requirements but pricey (one of my personal favorites). Our Brewer (Puget Pilot, Three Seas = same) would also be a good choice if you could find one and depending on condition might be in the right price range. Definitely built to cross oceans, dedicated full helm in the PH and a nice cockpit (not large by todays standards but large enough to stretch out in). You mentioned the Vberth/double and with a little carpentry you could remove the small amount of cabinetry on the starboard side and have a traditional Vberth. It's a sloop though (ours is cutter rigged with RF staysail) with a removable forestay and you wanted a ketch. They have teak decks, we removed ours, but if you aren't going to stay in the soggy PNW it might not be an issue (our core was dry). There is the Valiant 40 PH, but generally I think you have to be OK with the blister issues from the resin that was used (I don't know much about them). Ron mentioned the Nautilus and there were a couple of them around when we were looking for our boat, but I don't know much about them either.
That Brewer that has been for sale on YW forever has had structural bulkheads removed to create an "entertainment center", I'd steer clear of it.
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Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse

Hey everybody, thanks again for your replies!

Lets call my budget $140,000. My wife and I were talking last night, and somewhat to my surprise, she's on board to spend quite a bit more than I was expecting. I'm the less conservative one with the money around here and am the more boat crazy one, so I didn't protest. We agreed not to spend more on our boat than we did on our house, which was just over 140.

The fisher 37 is a boat we haven't been aboard yet. My wife really likes the look of it from the pictures. I both like it and I don't. I like sturdy, don't get me wrong, but it's a little too much like an icebreaker for a downwind trip in my book. I also think it would be a little too closed up for the warmer climates. In fact, the one in San Diego doesn't even have an external cockpit! I also don't like that they're 35,000lbs (5,000lbs more than my current boat) and also a full keel with a prop in an apeture. Sounds as hard, or harder to dock than what I have.

My wife and I like the nauticat 38 and there are a couple around at the upper end of our price range. What I don't know though is if they have blister issues and if so, what's involved with that. I also don't know if they're safe to take offshore with those big doors and windows. If they're safe to take offshore and don't have hull leprosy, they might be a good candidate. I might like a little more performance, but the wife would buy one in a heartbeat I think.

Off to look at the other suggestions in more detail....

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Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse

Medsailor,
I posted a reply on your other thread about Nauticats just to give you an idea of the 2 separate lines of boats that Nauticat puts out.
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Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse

Here's one..
Swiftsure Yachts (Seattle, WA)

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Oh, I like that boat alright, and I've heard of that "Perry" guy.

This is a perfect example of a boat that meets most of my needs but fails on a deal-breaking criteria. Where do we put the kids? It's got a V-berth that could house 2 kids, or us 2 adults, but the only other berth is the main pilothouse salon table that converts into a double. I plan to live on the boat for 5 years or so, and don't want to be sleeping in the living room for that long.

Sigh.... nice boat though. Maybe I should send the kids to boarding school...

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Sigh.... nice boat though. Maybe I should send the kids to boarding school...

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Now that's is.a.beautiful boat! And he would have money left over to outfit it.

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Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse

We went this same route and after looking and and nearly buying one we ended up without a pilot house.

Not sure I am sorry. They have pluses and minuses. We looked for a couple of years.

We looked at a lot of custom built steel or aluminum boats.

Only one that would truly have tempted me came up at my very marina in Newfoundland after we had already bought.
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