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MedSailor 03-17-2014 12:38 PM

Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
In the continued search for "the perfect boat" we have a couple of good contenders, but I want to be sure we're not missing a make/model with our searches. Also, I'm mostly searching yachtworld, but if the perfect boat model exists, but is not currently for sale, I wouldn't know about it unless I asked....

-Pilothouse with steering station. Must have good visibility to steer from this location.
-Berths for 2 adults and 2 kids, occasionally 1-2 guests.
-big fuel tankage
-divided rig, preferably a ketch
-exterior cockpit steering location and place to relax/entertain in warm climes
-blue water capable for milk run and circumnavigating Australia
-must be smaller than my current boat (50' and 30,000lbs)
-must be easier to dock than my current boat (full keel formosa 41)
-must be easy to walk around on deck and stay onboard

Nice to have:
-really good sailing performance
-lots of the offshore equipment already bought/installed
-solid rails instead of lifelines


Faster 03-17-2014 01:37 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
jrd22's Brewer PH 40 is one good, but relatively rare candidate.

The Cooper 416 might also fit your bill, and there's quite a few around this area since they were built here.

sidney777 03-17-2014 01:52 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
Corbin 39 See Corbin 39 Owners Group of Canada and the United States
Described as Bluewater cruiser with some unusual construction features.

There is one on EBAY USA as an " as minor project" cheap for a Corbin.

guitarguy56 03-17-2014 02:29 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
These are right in your neighborhood. Nice lines and might be ones you already looked at?

2001 Jeanneau Deck Salon Sail Boat For Sale

1985 Siltala Yachts - Nauticat 40 Sail Boat For Sale

Good luck...

outbound 03-17-2014 04:15 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
If you hit megabucks the Bruckmann 50 is a pisser of a boat Also Outbound just came out with a raised deck version designed by Bob Perry. Find you end up steering with the AP so having a inside wheel may be over rated

tdw 03-17-2014 04:43 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
When we were on the hunt Sceptre was high on the list as was Dehler DS41.

1984 Sceptre 41 Sail New and Used Boats for Sale -

2000 Dehler 41DS Sail New and Used Boats for Sale -

Neither though are inexpensive.

I was also a fan of the Brewer (see Fast's post above)

MedSailor 03-17-2014 05:15 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
Hehe how about this puppy. 1,200gal fuel tank. I calculated that I could motor from Seattle to Sydney DIRECT on one tank of gas....

Willard 40 Pilothouse Motorsailer for sale, 12.19m, 1977 |

Thanks for the links so far. It's amazing how few pilothouse sailboats are made with a good steering station down below. Many have windows and a raised saloon, but no steering station, some have a wheel in the living room, but few have a real steering station below.


Faster 03-17-2014 05:29 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
The Willard looks more MOTOR than sailer...;)

The standard Sceptre 41s have inside steering, we know several people who own them. Solid, high quality boats but the visibility is not excellent from the helm. The last few built became '43s' with a sugar scoop transom. The very last one built they redesigned the deck mold and raised the house about 4 inches, bigger windows and good visibility from below. It's a one-off, though, and at present still the last of them. Also owned by friends of ours.

I do think, though that both the Sceptre and the Cooper sail pretty well, and the Cooper with it's 14 foot beam is huge. Cooper also built a few Cooper 501s, which is IMO where the 'look' comes into its own.

There is a pretty good pilothouse thread somewhere here on the site.
Found it:

seapilot 03-17-2014 06:19 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
although there aren't very many out there and they are pricey, take a look at the Cabo Rico 42 PH or maybe the 45 Pilothouse... inside steering, good visability (except right under the bow).... The company isn't as solid as we would like, but the components and workmanship are top drawer. Both are Cutters, great capacity for stowage, fuel and water, absolutely blue water.

djodenda 03-17-2014 06:22 PM

Re: Help me find a 40-ish foot pilothouse
I was really impressed with jrd's Brewer, and was looking to buy a similar boat myself..

This one has been on Yachtworld for several years

Swiftsure yachts in Seattle has sold two of them in the past few years
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