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Skipping CA tax ?

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I live in HI and planning to buy a boat in CA in June.
Only issue, I don think I can't get the boat ready to leave right away.
in HI, there is no sale taxes on used boat. In CA, it is certainly close to 10%.
Anyway I can register my boat in HI, keep the boat until next Summer (full year) in CA and sail it - when ready - at that point ?

Is it really illegal ?

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Re: Skipping CA tax ?

Probably not legal. Think the term or solution maybe the 90 day yacht club in Ensenada.


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You not only need to be concerned about sales tax, but CA also has a Use tax. If keeping your boat in CA after the sale, you may be subject to both.

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Re: Skipping CA tax ?

Or bring it to Oregon, we don't impound boats or rape the owners.
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Re: Skipping CA tax ?

I guess the easiest would be to buy the boat officially in HI.
I just need to find a way to cover 2 months of preparation in CA.
I work mostly remote from HI for a company in LA. The only practical way for me to prepare the boat and the trip is to berth in Marina Del Rey.
Maybe if I offer to the owner a security equivalent to the value of the boat ?
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Re: Skipping CA tax ?

Actually a offshore deliver seems legal and possible for me as I am not CA resident.
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"For non-residents, where the buyer keeps the boat in California for more than six months during the first one year after the purchase"

Which would not be my case.
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in California you can either register with the DVM or document the boat. If you register it then the DMV will collect the use tax at that time. If documented then the state sends you a bill for the use tax about 6 months after the sale for any boat documented with a California address
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buy the boat, go to dmv....bill of sale for less than its worth and you get your pink slip in the mail...

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I was sent a Use tax bill for having a CA hailing port on my boat. Just had to send proof the boat was located outside of CA. Haven't heard anything since.

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You not only need to be concerned about sales tax, but CA also has a Use tax. If keeping your boat in CA after the sale, you may be subject to both.
Use tax IS sales tax. You don't pay both. It's called sales tax on some items, like TVs, and use tax on items like boats. It's a matter of nomenclature, that's all.

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