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Re: Living Aboard MacGregor26

We take our Mac 25 out for a few days at a time. I have had her in 4' confused seas and she did fine, but I wouldn't want things to get too short, steep and choppy. Big slow swell, fine and dandy. I have no experience with making the Bahamas trip but I can see how it could get rough for a Mac if you didn't time it right. Steep short chop would be no fun.

Of course this is with our 25, not sure on the water ballast, centerboard 26. Would seem more tender to me, but that is pure speculation. I definitely wouldn't want more tender than ours with the kiddos.

On the living aboard, wow. Uh, after 3 days it is tough in there. Where are you going to put "waste". They are great weekend campers, and with the right prep could go longer but it would get old fast. Your back will be destroyed.

We love the camping aspect and the simplicity but it would be a bit far to go and a bit small to live in for us for such a trip.
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Hi,
I own the mac 26s.This is not the hybrid, but I think the interior space is very similar. I took her to the Bahamas this summer for 3 weeks. I had a great time with two adult and a small dog on board. The crossing was worse that I wanted E 10-15 knots seas 4-5ft period 5sec. It was choppy and wet ride with the bow under water many times. The boat took the 14 hours beating very well although she is meticulously maintained.
I can't wait to go again next summer.
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I have a Venture Newport 23--Did Philadelphia to Sea Isle City, NJ twice. Enjoyed both trips. The Delaware Bay can get rough and I lost part of the electrical system due to waves washing over the deck. I was aboard for 4 days. Enjoyed but going to the bathroom was difficult. Crawling was the main method of navigating the cabin. Currently, I have a Allied Princess 36'. No washer or dryer. No refrigeration away from dock. Limited water supply away from dock. But if I chose to live aboard, I would have enough room to hide from my wife if she did not look to far. People have lived aboard smaller vessels but others could not live aboard a 100' vessel. Not enough room.

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I own the mac 26s...I took her to the Bahamas this summer for 3 weeks... The crossing was worse that I wanted E 10-15 knots seas 4-5ft period 5sec. It was choppy and wet ride with the bow under water many times.
There's the point there. That weather would not bother any sailboat built to be on the ocean. But a Mac 26 is about 2,800 pounds, as opposed to say 5,000 pounds for a similar-size Bristol.

Want to know why the Mac is 2,200 pounds lighter? The hull and deck are much thinner and weaker. The bulkheads, if any, aren't strong. The rigging and other gear is undersized.

It's also a flat-bottomed boat, which means it pounds in any type of weather, exasperating the structural weakness.

Any boat can sail in nice weather. But I wouldn't want to be on that boat when a sudden Gulfstream thunderstorm kicks up and seas go up to 8-10 feet.

When the boat is inevitably knocked down in that storm, good luck on it righting itself anytime soon with that hull shape, even if the boat holds together.

When I sailed in Miami, I knew someone who sold a Mac 25 because he thought it wasn't seaworthy enough for Biscayne Bay, which can get rough.

But ... your boat, your life, your decision. At least buy a good life raft.
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When I sailed in Miami, I knew someone who sold a Mac 25 because he thought it wasn't seaworthy enough for Biscayne Bay, which can get rough.

But ... your boat, your life, your decision. At least buy a good life raft.
Wow, thats a bit extreme. His 25 wasn't capable of the Bay?

Let's remember what the M25 was built for, trips to Catalina Island in view of the original Mac factory. You may need a Bristol to be comfortable, but using a boat for it's intended purpose is not something to terrify someone about.

Oh, and to keep on topic, the 26 was built in the same place for the same general purpose. It may not be everyone's cup of tea but different strokes...

To the OP, just be very careful out there as the margins for error are much smaller with a lightly built boat.
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I sailed a Venture 24 for years including crossings to Catalina and eventually some short point to point ocean races. knockdowns are a fact of life on a boat that light but she would bounce right back after dumping the sails. I loved that boat and would by another in a second. As with my first boat named "Joint Venture" i would scrap all of the cheap rigging, add a web of strengthening stringers from the chainplates forward and add additional bulkheads to the keel trunk.
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I've seen these online for sail for like $2,500.
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I've seen these online for sail for like $2,500.
The Venture/Macs are an affordable entry into sailing. I bought my Venture 2-22 with trailer for $2300. Crossing to the Bahamas wasn't even a thought in my mind, only learning how to sail and it helped me on my way to achieving that goal.

It was also at a price that, since I had never sailed before, wouldn't have been a huge deal should I have decided that I hated sailing.

It did quite well on the Chesapeake and I survived to buy my next boat.
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If your primary restriction is getting past the fixed bridge look for boats with a mast in a tabernacle. These are specifically designed to dip the mast easily. Many were designed for use in Holland. You will have to do some looking (let a broker do the dirty work, that is what they paid for - by the seller). You should be able to find a much stouter boat for going to the Bahamas that will go under bridges.

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I've seen these online for sail for like $2,500.
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