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Moving up in size. Suggestions?

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I'm currently in a Viking 33. I am 6'-0" tall and I cannot stand up in most of the boat and I'm tired of hitting my head. The wife and I are starting to cruise more and find that after 3 days on board we NEED to get off. I love how this boat sails! she handle beautifully and has a very slippery hull, deep keel and points like nobody's business! However we really want some creature comforts. Like, at least a swim platform, I think this can be added to the right boat, A stand-up shower and a usable galley. A large cockpit is also on the want list for entertaining.

We don't race but we like to go fast.

My thoughts are to either buy a suitable older boat and have her modified to what we want or go for a new boat. We like the Jeanneau 349 but my fear is the quality of the new boats and the composites they use. I love the solid hull on my viking. The wife really loves the light open felling of the newer boats and I'm only even considering them for her sake.

I'd like to start a conversation on this and hopefully come to a conclusion. I feel that a new boat will depreciate quickly and a refurb of an older boat will offer a better quality built boat overall and the value will remain largely the same.

I have, until now, rehabbed 2 boats from the brink of the crusher. Although I enjoyed the process and have a strong sense of accomplishment, I don't want to do it again. I want to find a boat, have the work contracted out by a reputable yard and end up in a turn key situation. I'm getting a bit older and just want a boat, in great shape, that I can simply maintain and sail more than work on.

I'm looking forward to all the tips, suggestions and insights!!

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Re: Moving up in size. Suggestions?

Danny,

After all the work you put in? I looked at the 349 at the boat show. Liked the layout, hated the quality. Cheaped out on winches, stove etc. Look for a C&C 34+ or 37+. The quality and sailing ability you already have with the amenities you want.

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Hi Joel,

I know!!! someone is going to get a really nice Viking 33!! I think I'm going to throw this question at the C&C list too.

I'd like to stay away from the cored hull though...

We just want to spend more time aboard and need some more room for that to be a pleasant experience.
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Cored hulls are fine if they are dry. These are cored above the waterline I beleive.

Of course, there has to be a budget involved here! Passport 40 is a great cruiser.

Can't wait to see the responses!
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Wow! Viking 33, one of my all time favorites. You are going to be hard to please after that boat. How about posting a pic of your boat so I can lust.

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Re: Moving up in size. Suggestions?

We've found the Catalina 387 to be exceptionally comfortable. Great head room, separate shower, huge cockpit, easy engine access, well laid out galley w/3-burner stove, double S/S sink, refrig & freezer. She doesn't point as well as our previous boat, a Sabre 34, but she's a comfortable cruiser. May not be the boat for you but worth a look.

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Re: Moving up in size. Suggestions?

If you are looking at modern and performance-oriented mass produced boats you should also look at the J/boats that have more cruiser features like the J/109.

It has the modern "european" layout that your wife seems to like (aft head, aft cabin), a big step through transom, sails nicely. Cruise it with a non-overlapping jib and the smaller size spinnaker and you'll have a lot of power that is easy to manage.

There are a lot of them for sale around here, which may be true where you are as well, and that means the prices are lower. It seems like the cheaper/slightly smaller J/105 has become a lot more popular in one design racing.

If/when I move up in size I'll be looking at "racer/cruiser" boats like this (or the J/35, or various C&C models). I really like my Pearson, but want the deeper draft and more powerful rig that comes on the more race oriented boats. In <30' it's more of an either/or for high performance or comfortable cruising, but in the mid-30s it seems like you can easily get both.
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Wow! Viking 33, one of my all time favorites. You are going to be hard to please after that boat. How about posting a pic of your boat so I can lust.
Hi Bob,

check out this thread. Ontario Yachts Viking 33 advice

I've been adding some pics there over time.

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I'm currently obsessing over the Tartan Built C&Cs Mostly the 110 and 115.

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I can't believe this has generated no suggestions,

I'm now going back a bit and looking at C&C 34plus and 37plus

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