Originally Posted by JohnRPollard
If you spend more time here you'll learn that, while not everyone agrees with every position that Jeff espouses, he is widely respected for the contribution he makes to the Sailnet community. That contribution spans many years and thousands of thoughtful, respectful posts.
By comparison you are new here with a history consisting mostly of personally criticizing a well-respected member. When you come in and precede statements such as "we are just going to have to agree to disagree" with "your posts are hard to miss - I have to wonder when you find time to work or to sail....", that is textbook passive aggressive and you are not doing yourself any favors in so far as building credibility.
If you want to join the debate here and develop credibility, my best suggestion is to focus on the subject matter and avoid personalizing it.
I don't agree with your statement about it being passive aggressive behaviour but...
I also don't see that the point of my being here is to get as many posts as possible and get as high a "Rep power" either.
From my perspective I joined a forum and read a couple of posts that I disagreed with and read a couple more that I disagreed with even more and no passive aggressive or being mean intended but Jeff_H's post are
hard to miss. Almost no one writes as many posts or go's on in such detail. So yes they are hard to miss.
As I was writing my first post (A response to Jeff_H's post) I thought this is not very nice for a first post - but I really disagreed with him and saw it as him spreading his opinion like it were "set in concrete" facts. I went to great lengths to be nice about it, to explain my background a bit, to explain why I disagreed. And yes it has occured to me now that some things like the names of keels etc. can also be a regional thing. But I was, I thought, as nice as I could be and get my points across.
So from my perspective I joined a forum and had the nerve to disagree with someone that - well - has a lot of support here. And was ridiculed for it. Someone even said outright something like "a person with only 5 posts disagreeing with someone of Jeff_H's stature...". Because apparently you have to have a lot of posts and "Rep power" before you dare disagree. That's just silly. As I said on another thread - well to paraphrase it - I will not get into a war about personalities or argue the same point over and over. That sort of thing is the worst of what forums of any kind are about.
I will however expand on what I said in my previous post "And just because something is in writing/taught/on the INTERNET does not automatically make it correct
." to include forums - just because you have over 4000 posts and a "Rep" does not mean you are correct.
When I was a kid I started reading my fathers boating magazines - it was quite a shock as I got older and had learned more about boats to realize that just because an article was in a magazine did not mean it was correct. Cruising World
and to a lesser extent Wooden Boat
would put anything in their magazines to fill up the space. On the other hand I find now that Good Old Boat
is a lot more responsible - they will publish something they don't agree with or goes against normal practice but they will state that in the body of the text.
As I have said before - don't believe everything you read.
So this is the last
post on this thread
that is not about the topic
I also realize that if you happen upon one of my posts after the first two they could easily be taken out of context and seem worse. I mean, I submitted two posts and then was dragged over coals. It was respond or just ignore the whole mess....