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Looking for premium coastal cruiser 39 LOA or less

I'm looking for suggestions on the move to a high quality boat. Here's the criteria:

Right now I have a Catalina 36 which is exceptionally well outfitted for single handed coastal or Great Lakes sailing. Full suite electronics, bow thruster, new sails, cruising chute, etc. I do not want a bigger boat because I very often sail alone. I know I can handle a 45' boat single handed out of the harbor, but docking single handed in a 25 knot cross wind would be out of the question with a large boat. I have no problems with the 36' boat under any conditions.

I've looked at new Catalina, Hunter, Bavaria, Dehler, and the common French boats. None of them seem as well built as Catalina. Any switch there would not be moving up.

I like all the modern toys, I like modern hull shapes, I like swim platforms, I like a fair turn of speed. This seems to take the old slow classics out of the picture. That means Island Packet, Alden, Morris, Hood, Hinckley, Shannon, and other premium builders are of out of the running.

All I can find that in modern cruisers that are less than 39' LOA would be the Tartan 3700 and the Hallberg-Rassy 372. Both are fast but classic looking, yet have lots of modern comfort features. Are there others? What am I missing?

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Your query implies a healthy budget, but there's still a 'range' I think you need to define. And strictly new?? or lightly used? Willing to ship from Europe? If so that opens up a whole new world!

Don't know if you followed PCP's "Interesting Sailboats" thread, but the first few hundred pages will have some good info for you, though mostly eurocentric. Some very interesting boats built over there, few of which seem to be imported to N.A.

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Re: Looking for premium coastal cruiser 39 LOA or less

Hey,

How about something from J boat? If you want more performance but still decent accommodations there is the J111. If you want real good performance but more comfort there is the new J112E.

I also like Jeanneau, the Sun Odyssey 379 would be pretty nice.

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Re: Looking for premium coastal cruiser 39 LOA or less

Agree that some of the new Jboats should be on the list.. but I don't think Jeanneau is an adequate 'upgrade' for the OP.

He's pretty clearly heading for the next tier.
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Re: Looking for premium coastal cruiser 39 LOA or less

The first thing that comes to my mind is X-Yachts; the Xc 35 or Xc 38 look like a sweet ride.

What is it about your Catalina 36 that makes you want to move up?
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Your query implies a healthy budget, but there's still a 'range' I think you need to define. And strictly new?? or lightly used? Willing to ship from Europe? If so that opens up a whole new world!.....
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For new vs used, it's mostly a time issue. I'm 62 years old and the horizon is not far off for my sailing years. I'm very open to a lightly used boat since they seem to commission sooner. With a meticulous previous owner a used boat should be ready to go. It could easily take a year or more to get the bugs out of a new boat. Whoever buys my current boat will be way ahead of a new boat buyer in terms of throwing off lines and going places.

I'm also open to shipping from Europe, but I'm reserved on the smaller brand names. I don't want to have difficult with replacement parts on pumps, motors, and things like that. Aren't the docks in Europe fitted with 220 volts?

I noted comments RE Jeanneau. I've been on lots of those and I think it's really a Ford/Chevy thing. Not a significant step up. I mean, trade in a lead keel for an iron keel? Also, J boats are wonderful, but even the cruising models are pretty lean inside.
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For new vs used, it's mostly a time issue. I'm 62 years old and the horizon is not far off for my sailing years.
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I'm also open to shipping from Europe, but I'm reserved on the smaller brand names. I don't want to have difficult with replacement parts on pumps, motors, and things like that. Aren't the docks in Europe fitted with 220 volts?.
I suspect that even on European boats (except for the shore power issues you bring up) that engines, pumps, etc are all going to primarily be mainstream brands like Volvo, Yanmar, Jabsco etc.

Sounds like you need to a)f ind the right boat, about 2-3 years old, and b) find one for sale that's had a similarly meticulous owner as yourself.

The latter, especially, may be a tall order!
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The first thing that comes to my mind is X-Yachts; the Xc 35 or Xc 38 look like a sweet ride.

What is it about your Catalina 36 that makes you want to move up?
Xc 38 does look interesting. The interior does look very Ikea, like most of the low cost European boats, but the deck plan and rigging is nice. Tartan would be a slam-dunk if they got the traveler out of the cockpit. The Xc 38 has done that part well.

My Catalina does most everything very well and I like the boat. The wing keel is great for getting into shallow spots but I think they could have made it a bit deeper. The boat goes sideways a bit easier than I would like. Mostly I'm looking at getting into a better built boat. Higher end boats often have more organized wiring, better bilge access, better hardware access, and things like that.
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Re: Looking for premium coastal cruiser 39 LOA or less

For coastal cruseing I would want a boat that could snake up a small stream to hide from
a storm or dry out safely on a mud flat as the tide goes out. 39 ft seems a bit large. As above the English and French have a lot of costal sailors.
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Re: Looking for premium coastal cruiser 39 LOA or less

Hey,

If you will consider used I would look for a Sabre 386 or 362.

Here's one:
2010 Sabre 386 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

C&C 115 might meet your needs.


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