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Sounds like too much to me. If you offer that much you will own it.
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I'd have to agree with GeneT, that offer sounds a bit high to me too... Especially if it needs a lot of work.
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Hasn't a $97k offer already been rejected? Owner has her listed for 24 months while she sits on a mooring goiing unused? 10k seperates the offer from being accepted but the boat is 17 years old and neglected and the owner rejects at 97k offer? Something is not adding up here.
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something isn't adding up

the owner doesn't want to sell it.

they are...
a)using it as a business tax write off
b)second home tax write off
c)second mortgage tax write off
d)asset depreciation management (tax write off)
e)he's an ass and doesn't really want to sell the boat.

(just kidding about the "ass" part)
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Yes the owner has already rejected a $97k offer on a 114,000 asking. Twice, once last summer and again this spring. A yardie told me he was only out to her twice last year. He doesn't sail her, just stays aboard. The white bottom is actually green now.

You guys are right, something isn't adding up. 114,000 is a fair price for a J-37c given that there were only 7-8 built and they don't come on the market very often. Recently a J-37c sold here in the Chessie for 95 on an asking of 114 so I think my offer on this one is reasonable.

I am pushing this one fairly hard because it exactly fits what I want in a boat. The J-40 I asked about earlier this month was really too big and expensive for us. A J-35c or a J-110 would be a good choice too. Over the years I have looked at everything from Swan's and Hinckleys to Hunters and Catalina's. We spent a season with a timeshare on a J-110 and loved her, so that's why the interest in mid sized J's.

I'm thinking that the owner really doesn't want to sell her unless he can find a sucker who will pay his inflated price. Ie "not seriously for sale". It's not likely a tax deduction thing because the carrying costs of a boat far exceed the money saved on taxes.

Back to my original question re-worded. Is .85 of asking reasonable? Is 97k for a 17 year old 37' er reasonable.
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I'd always start at 20% off the asking price. If it's too low, they'll counter offer.
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"It's not likely a tax deduction thing because the carrying costs of a boat far exceed the money saved on taxes"

If its in a "business name" the whole shooting match is a business expense.
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To be a business expense doesn't he have to have advertising painted on her or the sails? He'd have to take customers out on her once in a while and record that fact in the ships log. She's not in good enough condition to impress anyone.
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So at least one person agrees that .8 is a good starting point. Of course every broker that reads this thread is now inflating their asking prices 25-30%

Did I just shoot myself in the foot?

I guess I'll keep looking. Thanx all.
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If he takes a phone call related to his business there.. holds one "party" a year, has a photo of it in his office...oh there are soo many ways...

I know a boat named "sales call"...nuff said

There were only 7 or 8 made of this particular model? Depending upon your opinion, its either "distinctively unique", "a one off bast*** child"

look, if you want the boat, buy the boat. If its perfect for what you want to do, and the price is one you can live with, pull the trigger. What does it really matter what a few people with no "dog in the hunt" say? We're an opinionated bunch, and they've been expressed.

The boat has been for sale for two years, you could have pulled this trigger a year ago, or someone else could pull it tomorrow, or it may set for another two years.

Have you offered to get it surveyed yet? that might tell the owner you're serious. (no, I'm not travelling that far, LOL)

You're looking for justification for the price you want to pay, fine. Make an offer you're comfortable with, not what we're comfortable with.

Boat prices are all over the map, listing vs offer vs actual sales price. The reasons listing for sale are all over the map as well.

The question is, what is it worth to you.
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