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Largest Trailerable Sailboat

Hello Everyone, I was just wondering what is the biggest baddest most seaworthy, safest, unsinkable thick haul overbuilt like a tank if you hit rocks, sail around the world boat that is still easy to haul around and launch at the boat ramp? Are the old 70's hulls built tougher with the hand laid fiberglass?

I see a guy down the street from me has a 30 ft on a trailer, is that the biggest size limit for easy trailering? It weighs 7,000 pounds, I've got a 10,000 pound hitch so I can go bigger, I would like to go as big as possible.

We also need something easy to learn how to sail on, my wife and I are gonna buy a boat, I already bought Sailing for Dummies at Amazon.com for 28 cents plus 3.99 shipping, in Very Good Condition with "No Visible wear marks" lol and we are gonna go for it on our own, take it out and float around in circles until we learn how to sail.

I guess it's not that hard to learn and many others have done it this way? I always thought it was hard to learn. I want to get something we will not outgrow, I want a hard core boat because we do indeed intend to sail it around the world someday. But she works all the time and I have more time off so I need something that is easy to sail by myself as well.

Also what was the largest model sailboat that Boston Whaler ever made? I see a 22 ft Harpoon for sale on ebay but it is in Califorina and I am in Tampa Florida. What all years did Boston Whaler make sailboats and how can I find one? Where is the best place for me to find boats for sale? So a boat like I am describing, what would be the pick for $20,000 what would be the pick for $10,000 and what would be the pick for $5,000? Thanks
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Re: Largest Trailerable Sailboat

Well this topic should garner as many opinions as there are skippers I am sure. Rather than trying to answer all your questions, there is much to consider and will in due course once those of experience feel ambition to share, I will start the commentary by saying you are, in my opinion on the right track with considering older boats to begin your first sailing endeavours. I would like to offer my opinion before we enter a discourse on boats, is it is vital to gain the necessary training and experience before committing to a boat. Bring safe on the water is paramount not only for yourself but others as well. Operating a boat takes coordination of effort and the rules for navigation are complicated. Sailing looks simple but it is not. Not a first anyway. Take some basic sail and navigation courses before embarking on the adventure. Join a yacht club, get involved, get to know other sailors, pick their brain we love taking boats, and get out on as many different boats as you can. In this way gaining knowledge and experience is key to prepare so the dream does not become a nightmare.
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Re: Largest Trailerable Sailboat

If you want a big sailboat that is easy to launch at the local boat ramp, most likely, you will be looking at a boat with a swing keel. Just so you know, for sailing around the world, among other things, you want a heavy, fixed keel. When I say heavy, I'm talking something in the range of the keel weight being at least 35-40% or more of the total boat weight.
So a 10,000# boat would have a keel of at least 3500#'s.

Some years ago, I had a Catalina 30 with a 5' draft fin keel. Nice coastal cruiser boat, not built to cross oceans, although I've read it has been done. With that deep draft, the boat is obviously not going to be easy to launch from a trailer. If memory serves me, my boat was a little over 10,000 #'s with a keel weight exceeding 4000 #'s

In other words, a boat light enough to be easily trailerable isn't going to have the guts made to cross oceans

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The only unsinkable boat I know of was the Titanic. There is no such thing as a trailerable easy to launch blue water sailboat. A few popular boats that can be put on a trailer are the Nor'sea 27 Falmouth Cutter 22 Dana 24. They are a fairly big nightmare to rig and launch and you wouldn't want to do it often. Of the three I would suggest the Dana 24 for many reasons but all are excellent boats and VERY small. Whats your Budget?
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First, considering the nature of boats and the nature of highways the limitations are more likely to be imposed by the various state highway commissions than by boating parameters.

First figure out how big (actually wide) you can handle. This varies somewhat by state and due to the costs and aggravations of over width permits effectively puts a limit on your beam width. Weight and length are limits that are tied to beam width and won't be a problem. (I know of no 60 ft boats with a beam less than 8 ft.) As far as weight it has to weigh less than water. That's a pretty easy hurdle as most roads allow about 90,000 lbs.

First then find out what you can tow and go from there. I suspect that you will be limited to a few narrow boats in the 28-32 ft range and a gross weight of 7,500- 10,000
lbs. That's pretty tight for passage making (you run out of space pretty quick.) However they would be towable. Ya pays yer money and takes yer choice.

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How much do you want to spend? Something like a Carkeek 40 would certainly meet the design brief, but frankly buy a boat now to learn to sail on, then when you are ready to sail the world buy a different boat.

The Carkeek by the way is trailerable thanks to a hydrolic tilt trailor and can be launched at any yacht club dinghy hoist.

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Re: Largest Trailerable Sailboat

Reuel Parker has a line of "MAXI-TRAILERABLE" boat designs.

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" Parker Marine has developed a new line of MAXI-TRAILERABLE BOATS, for both sail and power. These vessels are 46' and under in length, 10' beam, shallow-draft, and weigh 15,000 lbs or less. The concept is to provide cruising boats that can be transported and stored on standard 40' 3-axle trailers, eliminating the need for slips and boatyards which are rapidly turning into condos all over the American waterfront. The boats can be towed by a tow truck without permits or escort vehicles, or can be towed privately with only a wide load banner. "

'IBIS', by Reuel Parker



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"IBIS is the prototype MAXI-TRAILERABLE cruising sharpie schooner. IBIS is 51' 4" LOA, 10' Beam, 2' 6" Draft (7' 8" Board Down), 42' LWL. Her displacement is 14,500lbs and her empty trailer weight is 12,000lbs. Construction is very strong, and sail trials have been made in the Bahamas. IBIS felt safe and comfortable during four Gulf Stream crossings as well as several other open-ocean passages. She navigated the remote Bights of Andros twice in 2010, and she ran Abaco Rage twice in 2011; both using inside passages no deep-draft vessel could even dream about! I sailed IBIS to the Bahamas again in 2012, and found her to be the ideal boat for gunkholing among the islands, sounds and creeks of the Bahamas. She exceeded my hopes and expectations, and proved to me beyond a doubt that properly designed and built sharpies can be seaworthy and seakindly. IBIS is presently in the Florida Keys, sailing with her new owner!"

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Re: Largest Trailerable Sailboat

there is a great article on this months good old boat about the c and c mega 30

http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=732

people either love or hate that design...I for one love it as it looks like a mini open 60 with the bulb cabin top and open transom and fin bulb keel

right at 8 feet beam for legal trailering(unless you get a trucking permit) and around 6k(gear and all) or so displacement plus trailer its about as big as you can go without getting into trouble

I found the article real interesting especially regarding performance and fun factor as well as $$$ compared to a new boat or something...


anywhoo

I plan on trailer sailing my merit 25 down to the florida coast and dream of taking it down there for a season then coming back or whatnot to georgia...or taking the boat to savannah and sailing there then coming back home etc...Ill be at 4,500 or so with trailer...

Merit 25 sold...Islander 36 still afloat? who knows...Im still in Columbus, and back...I think...jajajaja!!!!
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Re: Largest Trailerable Sailboat

Wow thanks for all of the responses. My budget is $5,000, and by keeping it on a trailer I am mainly trying to avoid slip fees and it will be nice to have it right in the yard to work on and fix up without having to drive to a marina, and I don't want to be stuck at any one marina.

Plus the kids can climb on it and play pirates, my wife and I can practice raising and lowering the sails and what not, and I just want to sit up there, drink a beer, and look overtop of all the houses up and down the street, and be King of the Mountain!

I know everything there is to know about powerboating, I've had US Power Squadrons School, Coast Guard Aux School, US Navy Watercraft Operator School and US Army Watercraft Operator School plus I've been on fishing boats all my life, for more years than I care to mention. I know that sailboats always have the right of way, powerboats will just go around me, I can't go fast enough or change course quick enough to hit anybody, So I fail to see how I could cause any problems anywhere.

Being that I was an Army Combat Engineer the challenge is I want to prove to myself that I can figure it out myself, and plus my wife and I can say we learned ourselves from the dummy book lol we want those bragging rights so it is kind of a personal challenge for us, a teamwork thing. Taking lessons would be cheating, that makes it too easy, I wanna learn by the seat of my pants Old School style like a Viking! I read somewhere that sailing was relatively easy, that anybody can be taught the basics in two hours, and that there were three accepted ways to learn.

One was taking lessons, one was doing ride alongs with other sailors, and the other was buying a boat and taking out yourself just like I am talking about and they said a lot of people have done it this way.

Yes I thought about buying a trainer boat, and then getting a bluewater one later, that's the plan, but I just want to get the biggest baddest training boat there is so we do not outgrow it for a while.

So I willing just be towing it down the street to the boatramp mainly, and our biggest trip will be between Tampa and Key West probably, so sounds like I am looking for a coastal cruiser you guys call it. And it sounds like I am looking for a swing-keel, whatever that is. Once again, Thanks for all the nice responses
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