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EC,
Thank you for the information, yes I would hate to think about the cost involved with a cabin reconfiguration.
Do have any cost estimates on repowering?
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Peter/Kiskedee,
my experience concerning costs might not be representative for the US, but maybe this is an interesting relation/comparison:
when I bought #K16 in 1990 I realized an oil leakage. I had one hydraulik pump and all the tubes renewed. Replacing of the whole hydraulik installation was round about the price for a new Perkins.
After this repair I faced the delight of three (3) times burst, when all of a sudden there was no stearing control at all.
2002 The new Perkins Sabre M 65 came into the new position below the companionway. The price was 2,5 X the engine. It was worth every single Euro.
Especially manoevering in narrow harbours is much more fun.
So don't waste your money for a half repair.
Regards Klaus/hull#k16, Baltic Sea
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Peter/Kiskedee,
my experience concerning costs might not be representative for the US, but maybe this is an interesting relation/comparison:
when I bought #K16 in 1990 I realized an oil leakage. I had one hydraulik pump and all the tubes renewed. Replacing of the whole hydraulik installation was round about the price for a new Perkins.
After this repair I faced the delight of three (3) times burst, when all of a sudden there was no stearing control at all.
2002 The new Perkins Sabre M 65 came into the new position below the companionway. The price was 2,5 X the engine. It was worth every single Euro.
Especially manoevering in narrow harbours is much more fun.
So don't waste your money for a half repair. Get a fixed cost estimate.
Regards Klaus/hull#k16, Baltic Sea
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Klaus,
Thank you for your insights.
I don't know the space required for a new modern engine but I’m still not clear how it could fit under the companion way, did you have to modify the forward ladder or the aft head bulkhead? I do not know if it is possible but some photos would be great.
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Peter,
yes you have to modify the ladder and the bulkhead in the lower area below the mirror. The sliding door has to be shortened (if there is one).
All this modifications were realized on later hulls at least from 1983.
I could send photos if you give me your e-mail address.
The tanks have to be moved into the position of the old engine underneath the cockpit. Even the stern tube has to be moved a little bit.
Regards Klaus.
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Klaus,
Does not sound good.
My email is: tackorjibe@gmail.com
Thanks for all the information,
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Smile Information on F & C 44

Hello,

I am currently looking at a 1985 F&C 44.

Does anybody have information regarding problems areas?

I can only find one other F&C for sale here in Europe.

Any advice & information would be greatly appreciated.

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F&c 44

biggest problem area is the chainplates. The original carbon steel (not stainless) chainplates were glassed to the inside of the hull with a less than perfect glass job left air pockets that fill with water that seeps in through the deck opening. The old tired toe rails are not teak and could have rotted out and allowed water in as well. I own #19 and have repaired the hull and plates where necessary. Second boat done by Great Island Boat Yard, Harpswell Maine. If the repair is done properly, the hull is virtually brand new and ready for another thirty years and more.
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Peter, Kiskedee #12, the estimate for a repower was $22, double the engine which we found to be conventional wisdom from many sources. With new hydraulics close to $30
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EC,
Thank you for the information, yes I would hate to think about the cost involved with a cabin reconfiguration.
Do have any cost estimates on repowering?
Thanks,
Peter
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Hello echoffmanjr,
I read your last post about chainplates and was alarmed. I never realized such problem on my boat (#16). What were the symptoms of this problem?
Did you have to repair all 4 areas? Was reconstruction done from outside or inside? I estimate it was horrible expensive , ones again.
Regards K. Holthoefer, #K16, Baltic Sea
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