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My wife and I have just started sailing this summer. We took lessons in an Echo 12'' dinghy, and have been using an 18'' Sandpiper that is available to club members. We have a difference of opinion to what our first boat should be. She thinks we should get something like a CL16 or Wayfarer16 dinghy. I''m leaning more to a 17'' Siren, a Sandpiper, or a Sirius21. I feel we would get more use out of a cabin style boat in spring and fall when weather is cooler and you want to stay dry. Also want someting trailerable. We sail on a large lake north of L.Ontario.
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I think you should consider the COM-PAC 19 . It has a seven foot cockpit and a roomy cabin which is easy to see over from the cockpit. It has a fixed keel which requires 2 feet of water to float and has a comfortable motion in waves with 800 lbs of ballast in the fixed keel... not hard to launch off its trailer either.
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Here is a couple of boats to consider:
1. Ideal 18. It is trailerable. It has a keel and is very stable. Our yacht club in Milwaukee owns a bunch of these. No cabin though.
2. I have a Colgate 26. Its a little bigger than the other boats you mentioned. It is a great daysailor. Has about a 13 foot cockpit. Don''t know of any boats with a cockpit this big. It has a lot of great saftey features including positive flotation. One was recently his by a 40 foot motor boat going at high speed. Even though it was almost broke in two, it was still afloat. It has a small cabin with berths for four. It is a small cabin though. Look at their web site www.colgate26.com and if you have any questions email me at
Unfortunately, the boat has only been made for about 5 years, so if you are on a tight budget there are not many used ones out there, and since they are not very old they are not cheap yet. But take a look. They are beautiful looking boats.
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You need to think about how you envision your time on the water. One of my prior boats was a CL16 and I found it to be an excellent sailing boat. I belonged to a club with a number of CL16s which made for an interesting racing schedule. Open boats like the CL16 are however boats that are best suited for limited on the water intervals. If you envision long afternoons spent sailing a bit farther away from shore you should look for something larger with at least a cuddy cabin that will hose a porta potty. It sounds like you sail Lake Simcoe which you should also keep in mind is notorious for sudden storms that can be hazardous for small craft. A slightly larger boat with a small auxiliary may get you into port when faced with a weather change.
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