Down to 2 - SailNet Community
 1Likes
  • 1 Post By RobGallagher
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 8 Old 06-19-2015 Thread Starter
Fau
Possibly improving
 
Fau's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: S Florida
Posts: 118
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 5
 
Down to 2

We've been looking for a pretty long time and have narrowed our choices down to 2:

2003 Jeanneau 32' very nice condition pretty to look at and feels (and is) the newest. Will be more expensive by 4-5 thousand dollars.
1993 Benneteau First 38' good condition as well. Surveyed in November with no real concerns. Very nice topside - not as nice as the Jeanneau below but still nice.

We will use the boat for coastal cruising and some weekends in S. Florida. We are going back and forth and are having trouble deciding.

Do or do not... There is no try.
Fau is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 Old 06-19-2015
Just another Moderator
 
Faster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 18,787
Thanks: 141
Thanked 501 Times in 475 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
Re: Down to 2

Quite a big difference between 32 and 38 feet... in loads, maintenance, moorage etc. Newer may be nicer, yet the Bene will probably be more 'liveable' if you can manage the overall added costs of ownership. But there is a 10 year difference in age......

Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Faster is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 8 Old 06-20-2015
Senior Member
 
FSMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Florida/Bahamas
Posts: 831
Thanks: 3
Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: Down to 2

Considering your location, sooner or later the Bahamas will be calling you. Does one of the boats have shallower draft than the other?

For that matter, does one have a higher mast than the other? The Julia Tuttle bridge is 56', the lowest bridge going through Lake Okeechobee is 49".

Sail Fast Live Slow
36' Solaris Sunstar catamaran
FSMike is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
 
post #4 of 8 Old 06-21-2015
Picnic Sailor
 
chall03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,953
Thanks: 25
Thanked 32 Times in 28 Posts
Rep Power: 15
 
Re: Down to 2

The obvious differences are of course age and size.

On age - Does the Beneteau have any/many new or rebuilt systems? At that age a few big ticket items are just around the corner. Standing rigging should of been done at least once since original. New sails? Engine rebuilt/new? How many hours on the engine? Have electronics been renewed?

You did say the Beneteau surveyed ok. if this is true and it stacks up reasonably on the things I mentioned above, and if your pockets are deep enough to keep up with the maitenance then I would personally go the older larger boat for coastal cruising.

The smaller boat however with be easier to own, i.e. it will cost a lot less by virtue of it's age and size.

'Life is either a daring adventure or nothing' - Helen Keller



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
chall03 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 8 Old 06-21-2015
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Hingham, Ma
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: Down to 2

The Bene First series is their performance line. I love these boats but every one i have sailed, or owned, has tended to be tender but fun and fast. Not sure of your sailing preferences but, if you have not yet test sailed them, they may handle quite differently and that difference may not be based upon length alone. Best of luck!
Edp251 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 8 Old 06-21-2015
Picnic Sailor
 
chall03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,953
Thanks: 25
Thanked 32 Times in 28 Posts
Rep Power: 15
 
Re: Down to 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edp251 View Post
The Bene First series is their performance line. I love these boats but every one i have sailed, or owned, has tended to be tender but fun and fast. Not sure of your sailing preferences but, if you have not yet test sailed them, they may handle quite differently and that difference may not be based upon length alone. Best of luck!
+1

I missed that it was a first.

The early nineties firsts are not as tender as the .7's from memory.

'Life is either a daring adventure or nothing' - Helen Keller



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
chall03 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 8 Old 06-21-2015
HANUMAN
 
RobGallagher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Noank, Connecticut, USA
Posts: 2,474
Thanks: 23
Thanked 71 Times in 70 Posts
Rep Power: 16
 
Re: Down to 2

What does the other half of "We" think?

32 vs 28 feet is a big swing. Maneuvering a 32 foot boat can seem like parking a go cart compared to a tractor trailer to some of us, depending on crew. Do you plan on going out sailing for a couple hours as the sun goes down or getting in and out a slip alone in a breeze? Or will the boat be more of a weekend retreat and it does not matter if you sail it so much? Either way is good, I just know that although I have lots of friends and family who would love me to spend time with them at various parties, BBQ's and take road trips more often then they come out for a sail or spend a weekend aboard. So, I end up sailing alone about 50% of the time. I enjoy it, but it's easier with my easily managed C&C 30MKII then if I had a "big boat".

I also know it's hard to think realistically when one does not know exactly how things will play out. In the end you might be perfectly happy with the 32, wishing you had a 37. OR... You might regret buying the 38 because it's too much boat for a variety of reasons.

So that's the reason I never moved up to a bigger boat. When I find a serious girlfriend who tells me we should get a bigger boat I'll have my mind changed for me.

YMMV
chall03 likes this.

HANUMAN
'88 C&C 30 MKII
NOANK, CT
RobGallagher is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 8 Old 06-21-2015
Senior Member
 
overbored's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 1,890
Thanks: 1
Thanked 124 Times in 123 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Down to 2

Other then size and age the biggest difference I see is boat handling. the first 38 needs a crew with it's larger sails and overlapping headsails. the 32 is easier to sail short handed with non overlapping headsails. I would go with the 32 if you want a boat to sail. if you need the internal space for cruising then I would keep looking for a boat that is more cruising friendly. if you like to sail with a large crew go with the 38.

"FULL TILT II" 2011 BENETEAU FIRST 30
"GOLD RUSH" PRINDLE 16
overbored is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome