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With my Venture 222, I would smoke an Oday 22 in the club. He never beat me, Poor guy just couldn't stand it. I also beat Stilleto 27 on occasion. corrected time

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Re: Venture 21 vs Oday - Opinions Please

I would like to dispel the myth about the poor quality of the Venture 21 sailboat. I have a 1966 MacGregor Venture 21 on a trailer for the last 15 years and have sailed it through most anything you get in on shore sailing. It takes chop, swell, heal, and high wind without issue. The quality of the boat is impecable. No blistering, no weakness, and superior strength in the bow keel region and cabin top. The boat is indistructable. I decided to teach myself how to sail on it and did so doing everything you can think of wrong. I've become a very confident sailor with this boat and love it more and more every time I sail it. I've worked on a 137 foot wooden tall ship the Bill of Rights out of Oxnard, and sailed the nicer mid sized Catalina 32 and 36's, Coronado 27's, Benetau 30's, and Hunter 36's. I love my boat so much that I'd rather sail my own boat than any of those. The only draw back is the time that it takes to set up the boat for sail. But with a trailer sailer you'll have to suffice that is what saves you the hundred dollars plus a month on slip fee's. I have done all the repairs on my boat myself and know the quality of the glass construction of my Venture intimately. It's a solid boat that will sail you where ever you want to go. You're on a small boat you'll get wet. If you don't want to get we don't go near the water. Have fun and make an educated choice but don't over look the Venture 21 of any year especially the older ones. They're tanks in construction and will take anything you can dish out!

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Re: Venture 21 vs Oday - Opinions Please

just ran across this old message but it's a continuing question: how good are macgregor products?

i own the 39th boat roger macgregor made, a venture 21. it's a light boat, 800 lbs with 400 lbs of lead ballast for a total of 1200 lbs. unlike some boats, it's entirely hand laid fiberglass. some of the heaver boats people brag about are made with chopper guns. yes, they are heavier but not stronger than a hand laid hull.

in an effort to keep the price down, macgregor didn't use expensive hardware. owners often upgrade some of their hardware. the V21 sails a bit wet but very well, pointing higher than most. her light weight makes her easily handled. her deep swing keel makes her, although initially tender, stable and shoal draft at the same time. she's fast and a beautiful sailor.

perhaps most of all, used ones can be had for low prices, good deals for a first boat.
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Re: Venture 21 vs Oday - Opinions Please

I started sailing on a Venture 22. It was a great boat to learn on. I had no structural issues. When we moved up we gave it away and as far as I know it's still sailing.

It's a good boat for how and where it was built to sail and beyond that, it depends on how it was maintained. I have no idea about the quality of the later boats.
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Re: Venture 21 vs Oday - Opinions Please

I was looking for a San Juan 21 but they were all on the Sound (Puget) 4 hours away so picked up a local Venture 21 for $2000, a lot less than a comparable SJ 21. Interestingly it has the same handicap as an SJ 21 but when I tried to race a bunch I discovered my rigging didn't allow me to point 45 degrees to the wind, more like 50 or 55 degrees, unless were to rig her with a traveler to pull the boom to the center of the boat. I don't know if all of them are rigged like this but it was frustrating to say the least. It also did not have a downhaul, outhaul, or boom vang so flattening the main could not be done. Consequently it became unwieldy in a stiff breeze. The fore/aft balance of the sails also made it want to head upwind when healed over and drag the rudder through the water slowing it down. Other than the rigging problems I think it has an outstanding hull shape for racing. Some of the models had a heavier, longer keel which gave it a better righting moment but not mine. Also, the holes for the bolt to secure the swinging keel when down tended to leak into the cabin even with good rubber gaskets. Yeah, cheap boat, but then what can you expect for one or two grand?
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Re: Venture 21 vs Oday - Opinions Please

Started with a Venture 21, good boat. I sailed in some tough spring storms in Georgia and the boat handled it better than skipper and crew. I recommend it. I sailed it three years from a trailer on Lake Lanier, no problems. I have thought of acquiring one again as an inexpensive day sailor. MacGregors are frequently dissed by people who have not sailed them. This helps you as it holds the price down. Listen to the owners. I had to go through this when I acquired my Mac 70, the web sites with MacGregor owners speaking recommended them.
What counts is a boat and building experience. To me the lines of the Venture are slimmer and faster than the O Day.

My wife and I and child over nighted on it. No anchor just pulled up on the beach. Any boat that has you sailing will be fantastic, each has it pluses and negatives.
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