Originally Posted by amirault
What are the performance characteristics of these two design features? the other boat on the current short list is a Catalina 309 with a traveller on the roof and a wing keel; known locally as the danforth keel. Can I expect similar performance to that with the Catalina traveller/keel combination? Can the main be adjusted single-handed from the helm?
For you current owners it would not be a waste to comment on your likes/dislikes with you decision, and what options you found you didn't need/wish you had ordered.
I assume you are asking regarding the boat listed as the "30 Cruiser" on the Bavaria web site. If so, the model seems aptly named, and any thoughts of racing it seem misplaced. The 30 Cruiser calls out for some comments:
1. the lack of a traveller means the boat will never point properly nor can the main be trimmed in or out for different wind speeds, so you will either be heeling more than it should or sail with a partially luffing main. I'm not sure if a PHRF rater would give credit for this shortcoming - I suspect most see so few boats without a traveller the question may have never have come up. Of course a buyer could add a traveller, but I would say a designer leaving a traveller out is making a statement, which is that the planned sailing characterisitcs are casual and incidental.
2. The designer is also trying to get too much boat into too few feet. I can tell you based from my experience owning a Beneteau First 30E that three cabins in 31 feet doesn't work - results in each area being too small to be comfortable. As a result the boat feels cramped...
3. the aft cabin looks like it will have all the characteristics of sleeping in a coffin.
3. An iron keel should be a non starter. Based on the iron keel on the Beneteau, I'd bet within three years you will be grinding and epoxying it some Spring , or living with a rusty mess. That was my experience.
4. As to trimming the main from the helm, I've never seen any mid-boom sheeting setup that allowed a helmsperson to trim the mainsheet from behind the wheel. Install the traveller in front of the wheel if you want that benefit. You can expect to use one of the cabintop winches to trim the main.
My take of this boat is that Bavaria has decided to take on Hunter in the USA as the boat of choice for buyers who don't know boats. You might better start with the catalina.