New purchase - SailNet Community
 2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 17 Old 11-26-2015 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 10
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
New purchase

Hi, this is my first post and will be my introduction post as well. I'm from Canada and did my first season with a Mistral 4.04 last summer. I enjoyed it a lot and I want to move on to a real sailboat. I intend to take ASA101 this next summer.

For now I'm looking at a trailer-sailer such as a hunter 19, potter 19. I wanted something like a Cat22 but my ford escape can't tow over 3500 pounds. That being said, what would be my other options near the 4000$ mark and less then about 2000 pounds ?

Thank you !
hornet is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 Old 11-26-2015
Owner 4knot sb.
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posts: 2,130
Thanks: 11
Thanked 113 Times in 108 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Re: New purchase

$4000, and under 3500lbs total weight (boat and trailer) is gonna be tough, but here are some candidates in the 16-20ft range.

Precision 165 (total weight towed about 1900lbs)
Capri 18 (actually its a 20) (total weight towed about 3400lbs)
Precision 18 (total weight towed about 2900lbs)
Compac 19 ???
Compac 16 (tw about 1900)
Oday 192 (probably close to 2500lbs)
Beneteau 21 (OK this one is likely out of the price range, but worth looking for fun).... 1994 Beneteau 21 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

***Boatless
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
**** Production boat limit tester, blue-water bucket owner, with wine taste on a beer budget.
SHNOOL is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to SHNOOL For This Useful Post:
hornet (11-26-2015)
post #3 of 17 Old 11-26-2015
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Dania Beach
Posts: 253
Thanks: 20
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: New purchase

You're in Canada. Siren 17's should be all over the place for under $2k. They weigh 750lbs dry. You can tow them by hand.
Faster likes this.

1975 Tartan 30 Competition Rig
eko_eko is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to eko_eko For This Useful Post:
hornet (11-26-2015)
post #4 of 17 Old 11-26-2015
Senior Member
 
Tanski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 430
Thanks: 2
Thanked 29 Times in 29 Posts
Rep Power: 2
 
Re: New purchase

Had a Sirius 21 on a trailer for a few years, come in about 2000 pounds.
Sirius 21 - Used Sailboat Market in Canada
Did the North Channel on it, towed it up behind my S-10 4x4 pickup with a v-6.
I had a Mistral 16 for a while back in the 80's. Logged some Atlantic Ocean sailing in that little thing. Towed it all over the place.
I kind of miss having a trailerable boat!
Tanski is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to Tanski For This Useful Post:
hornet (11-26-2015)
post #5 of 17 Old 11-26-2015
Senior Member
 
BarryL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,975
Thanks: 4
Thanked 74 Times in 69 Posts
Rep Power: 14
 
Re: New purchase

Hey,

I think that a Catalina 22 on a trailer is close to 3500lbs. I spent one season trailer sailing a Catalina 22. We towed it with a 2002 Honda Odyssey, which is rated to tow 3500 lbs. My towing distance was about 10 miles and I never had a problem.

Other similar boats are the O'day 22, 222, 192. If you want something very easy to tow and launch, look at the O'day Day sailor. It doesn't have a cabin, but there are lots and lots around.

Barry

Barry Lenoble
Deep Blue C, 2002 C&C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BarryL is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to BarryL For This Useful Post:
hornet (11-26-2015)
post #6 of 17 Old 11-26-2015 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 10
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: New purchase

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanski View Post
Had a Sirius 21 on a trailer for a few years, come in about 2000 pounds.
Sirius 21 - Used Sailboat Market in Canada[/url]
Did the North Channel on it, towed it up behind my S-10 4x4 pickup with a v-6.
I had a Mistral 16 for a while back in the 80's. Logged some Atlantic Ocean sailing in that little thing. Towed it all over the place.
I kind of miss having a trailerable boat!
Thanks, I've never read about the Sirius 21, it looks nice.

For the actual weight when towing do I assume that the displacement is the right weight or I have to subtract the ballast weight ?
hornet is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 17 Old 11-27-2015
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Dania Beach
Posts: 253
Thanks: 20
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: New purchase

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornet View Post
Thanks, I've never read about the Sirius 21, it looks nice.

For the actual weight when towing do I assume that the displacement is the right weight or I have to subtract the ballast weight ?
Unless the boat has water ballast, you do not subtract it. Even then, you have to be able to lift the water-ballasted boat up a ramp.

Assume your towing weight is displacement + gear stowed on board + weight of trailer. Remember that things like outboards and their fuel tanks add weight as well.

1975 Tartan 30 Competition Rig
eko_eko is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 17 Old 11-27-2015 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 10
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: New purchase

I'm a little disapointed, even a Sirius 21 is probably to heavy for a 3500 pounds rating. I guess I need to be way under de 2000 pound displacement.

I found info on the sirius for example on a forum that says :

I am rolling down the road at about 4,000 lbs when loaded with battery, motor, water, and other supplies. My trailer weighs in at about 900. I would guess the boat weighs closer to 2,400 than the 2,000 design weight. Anybody else weigh their Sirius?

I just had mine on the scale and boat with trailer came to 3400 lbs. That is lightly loaded....no motor, gas, or battery. I think your thought of 2400 lbs for the boat may be close possibly a bit low though I don't know what my trailer weighs.

So it's about the same weight than a cat22...
hornet is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 17 Old 11-27-2015
Member
 
Cande's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Ithaca, NY, Cayuga Lake
Posts: 55
Thanks: 16
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 2
 
Dock
Re: New purchase

Precision 18! Lovely little boat, trails well. Easy to step the mast.
Good luck!
SHNOOL likes this.
Cande is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 17 Old 11-28-2015
Fortuitous
 
chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Scenic NJ
Posts: 282
Thanks: 2
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: New purchase

I think there are bunch of MacGregor/Ventures that might work. The 21, 22, and 222 are all similar to the Catalina 22 but lighter.

My Boat Log, or "blog" if you will:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
chip is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to chip For This Useful Post:
hornet (11-29-2015)
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Purchase Antalya Boat Review and Purchase Forum 3 02-01-2015 05:14 PM
Possible purchase frscott Gear & Maintenance 7 09-30-2013 11:44 AM
Purchase, sales taxes, location of purchase, and the laws? dgasmd General Discussion (sailing related) 4 10-14-2012 08:57 PM
First Purchase GoingSouthIn2 Beneteau 10 09-26-2012 12:50 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome